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Offline Meg

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Re: Pope St Pius X Promoted Congregational Chant
« Reply #60 on: January 16, 2025, 02:48:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on January 16, 2025, 02:33:08 PM
    If someone KNOWS they can't sing, they shouldn't sing.  Singing in church is an act of the liturgy; it's a prayer.  Bad singing/off-key is a distraction and takes away from the prayerful-aspect of the music.

    You quoted only half the sentence that Viva wrote. You left out the part where she compared the person who sings off-key with someone who sings well but is not in a state of grace. She also said that she's been in many choirs and seen things. I've been in choirs too and seen things too....those in the choir who are not living an honest Catholic life.....far from it. But maybe all that matters is that they sing well, so as to not offend those around them.
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    Re: Pope St Pius X Promoted Congregational Chant
    « Reply #61 on: January 16, 2025, 03:21:52 PM »
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    You quoted only half the sentence that Viva wrote. You left out the part where she compared the person who sings off-key with someone who sings well but is not in a state of grace.
    I left it off, because her comment was stupid. 
    God is more pleased at a dog than a person who is in mortal sin.  Should we invite all kinds of animals into church because of this false comparison?  Certainly not.

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    She also said that she's been in many choirs and seen things. I've been in choirs too and seen things too....those in the choir who are not living an honest Catholic life.....far from it.
    Who cares?  Their job is to sing.  As long as their situation is not openly scandalous, their state of soul is none of your business.

    If you and Viva were focused on singing properly in the choir, and also attending mass, you wouldn't have time to "see things" or to critique others.

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    But maybe all that matters is that they sing well, so as not to offend those around them.
    Yes, their job is to sing well.  End of story.
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    Re: Pope St Pius X Promoted Congregational Chant
    « Reply #62 on: January 16, 2025, 03:25:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 16, 2025, 02:19:52 PM
    For St. Pius X, Italian isn't THAT radically different from Latin (at least in terms of pronunciation) that it would present a problem, and, as I said earlier, Italians just seem to genetically be able to sing, even before they learn how to walk.

    When I was studying Latin pronuntiation, the source that I found said that Ecclesial Latin should be pronounced using the Italian accent of Rome. So, Italians don't learn to learn to pronounce Latin at all. They already know it. Of course, this is not considering the local dialects, some of which are quite a bit different from standart Italian.
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