Author Topic: USA Hispanics from the SSPX (Read 39594 times)

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #45 on:** January 17, 2012, 10:49:37 PM »

Maybe it's because racism is a BS Marxist term?

s2srea · « **Reply #46 on:** January 17, 2012, 10:58:56 PM »

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The fact remains that there certainly can be reason to object to having one's sermons in a foreign tongue in one's own country. That's the thing that doesn't seem to compute with you.

Thats almost funny. You act as if this is Christendom and everything is normal in the world. C'mon telesphorous. People need spiritual nourishment, especially nowadays.

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No, but I will be honest, I don't think I will ever be in a situation where I am in a non-English speaking country and hear the priest speak give sermons in English for my benefit outside of an English speaking congregation.

You've also never been in a situation where you're a Mexican who is forced to cross borders in order to feed your family when you're at a point that you could care less what is illegal or not.

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You know s2rea, my ancestors had their own parishes, and they were forced to stop speaking their language. Let's see how you Spanish speakers react if that were done to you.

And I can sympathize with that and call it wrong because it was Tele. But I'm trying to be relevant to the situation these people are in.

s2srea · « **Reply #47 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:01:04 PM »

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Maybe it's because racism is a BS Marxist term?

It may be a Marxist term, but there are people out there who hate others of differing races... if you tell me the term, I'll use it to be more proper.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #48 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:06:15 PM »

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The fact remains that there certainly can be reason to object to having one's sermons in a foreign tongue in one's own country. That's the thing that doesn't seem to compute with you.

Thats almost funny. You act as if this is Christendom and everything is normal in the world. C'mon telesphorous. People need spiritual nourishment, especially nowadays.

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No, but I will be honest, I don't think I will ever be in a situation where I am in a non-English speaking country and hear the priest speak give sermons in English for my benefit outside of an English speaking congregation.

You've also never been in a situation where you're a Mexican who is forced to cross borders in order to feed your family when you're at a point that you could care less what is illegal or not.

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You know s2rea, my ancestors had their own parishes, and they were forced to stop speaking their language. Let's see how you Spanish speakers react if that were done to you.

And I can sympathize with that and call it wrong because it was Tele. But I'm trying to be relevant to the situation these people are in.

I think your responses in this thread are not particularly logical because this issue obviously had a serious effect on you.

As for the point about illegals, I'm not going to judge their intentions, but I'm not going to agree to the idea that the laws of this country are to be disregarded so they can come here. And as I said, it's natural to want to hear sermons in your own national language. Not a foreign language. So if we want to understand the motivations of those who walked out, you should try to recognize that it is opposition to having their own language supplanted in their own land and place of worship.

s2srea · « **Reply #49 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:09:56 PM »

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I think your responses in this thread are not particularly logical because this issue obviously had a serious effect on you.

As for the point about illegals, I'm not going to judge their intentions, but I'm not going to agree to the idea that the laws of this country are to be disregarded so they can come here. And as I said, it's natural to want to hear sermons in your own national language. Not a foreign language. So if we want to understand the motivations of those who walked out, you should try to recognize that it is opposition to having their own language supplanted in their own land and place of worship.

Oh geez Tele. Of course it has a serious affect on me; my own family has lived through it. But just because it can stir emotion doesn't remove my ability to remain logical. When you got upset over how you were treated in the past, did it affect your logic?

And who's talking about what's "natural" to hear or not? We're talking about masonic government's (our's in particular) taking advantage of other countries (with the help of THEIR masonic governments) and peoples. If someone can ignore that, it doesn't make them racist, just daft.