Author Topic: Sodomy Scandal in Post Falls, ID - SSPX Immaculate Conception Academy (Read 182293 times)

brianhope · « **Reply #30 on:** July 10, 2016, 04:17:25 PM »

Quote from: ignatius

I have relatives who live in Post Falls. They said they were at ICC this morning and the district superior (Fr. Wegner) was in the confessional throughout the mass and gave the sermon. They said the sermon didn't have anything to do with this occurrence.

Fr. Wegner offered the 7AM Mass. I thought perhaps he was here to address the scandal, but officially, it turns out, he was in town for the 25th anniversary of St. Dominic School. I thought he may have broached this terrible subject when the time came to ascend the pulpit, especially given his grim demeanor, but it didn't come to pass. I guess that's his normal countenance. :thinking:

mw2016 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 10, 2016, 04:18:38 PM »

This detail proves that the abuse by Sloniker was not something that happened in THE PAST.

This detail shows that it was ongoing to the point of his arrest last fall:

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Saturday, November 7, 2015 12:00 am
DAVID COLE/Staff Writer | 4 comments

COEUR d'ALENE — The Coeur d'Alene long-haul trucker charged with lewd conduct with boys also now faces six child pornography charges.

Kevin G. Sloniker, 30, has been charged with two counts of production of child pornography, two counts of distributing child porn and two counts of possession of sɛҳuąƖly exploitative materials, according to an amended criminal complaint filed in 1st District Court in Kootenai County.

The updated charging docuмents said Sloniker, between January 2014 and September of this year, allegedly took pictures of the private parts of a 14-year-old boy.
During the same time period, Sloniker allegedly took similar pictures of an 11-year-old boy.
Sloniker allegedly showed the pictures to another person.
The docuмents were filed by Kootenai County Deputy Prosecutor Jed Whitaker.

Sloniker is scheduled to appear before Magistrate Anna Eckhart on Dec. 10 for a preliminary hearing, when prosecutors will work to establish probable cause and have the case moved up to District Court for a future trial.

Sloniker was a youth camp counselor at Immaculate Conception Church in Post Falls. He allegedly met and befriended some boys through the youth camps.

The Immaculate Conception Church is part of a breakaway sect known as the Society of Saint Pius X, or SSPX. The Diocese of Boise released a statement this week clarifying that the Immaculate Conception Church is not a Roman Catholic Church.

mw2016 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 10, 2016, 04:34:17 PM »

The principal at ICA, John Tardiff, was a teacher at St. Anthony Academy when our kids attended there.

ignatius · « **Reply #33 on:** July 10, 2016, 05:47:19 PM »

It is not usual for a visiting district superior to do back to back confessions at masses when there are people waiting to talk to him outside. Especially for this highly disturbing situation. It appears Fr. Wegner was in the confessional on purpose during those masses making himself available for any occasion of discreteness...

Marlelar · « **Reply #34 on:** July 10, 2016, 06:18:08 PM »

Quote from: Geremia

If the parents of the children are really traditional, why aren't they homeschooling?

Traditional teaching is that children belong in a Catholic school BUT in light of the mess that even SSPX schools are in I would home school if I had kids in that age bracket. I have been told second-hand that the Society vigorously discourages home schooling but I have no first-hand knowledge of that.

I pulled mine from a NO school 20+ years ago because of the outrageous corruption of Catholic truth, looks like parents in sspx schools are now going to also be extremely vigilant about what goes on at their schools and what they allow their kids to participate in, given that corruption has spread to them also.

All of the kids, even those NOT involved in the sinful activity are going to be scarred for life.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #35 on:** July 10, 2016, 06:36:23 PM »

I heard from a couple in Post Falls this morning. They report that the school will not close, but that they are already preparing for the opening of a new school year. I hear, furthermore, that Pharaoh Bernie hardened his heart. Originally, they had a new priest scheduled to take over for Fr. Vassal in the wake of the latest scandal. However that decision was reversed. Apparently, the sspx hierarchy, (Fellay?) informed concerned laity that nobody is going to tell Menzingen what to do. It is not our place.
What is more, apparently, 20 ICC families are pulling their kids out of ICA. I hope the report is true. Even better news would be that ICC was on the market and had been closed down altogether.

mw2016 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 10, 2016, 06:41:02 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

What is more, apparently, 20 ICC families are pulling their kids out of ICA. I hope the report is true. Even better news would be that ICC was on the market and had been closed down altogether.

How is it possible to keep its doors open with 20 families pulling their kids out?? Wouldn't that decimate their bottom line?

Phoenix's school would shut down if that many families walked.

Matthew · « **Reply #37 on:** July 10, 2016, 06:47:50 PM »

Quote from: PG

mw2016 - Pablo doesn't have a monopoly on that saying. And, I already have a redeemer. His name is Jesus Christ. Who, coincidentally, happens to be the author of that saying, and much more.

Yes indeed!

I'm not about to "quote" and "give credit to" Pablo for something he used (or ripped off) from someone else!

Pablo is full of hate. The fact that he might accidentally hate a bad guy once in a while doesn't rehabilitate him. Besides, even hating a bad guy is evil! We're not supposed to hate anyone on this side of Hell's walls.

The fact is that anyone you meet on Earth has not yet been condemned. If God is allowing him to live longer, it is because of His mercy. Does He intend for this soul to convert at some point and glorify Him forever in heaven?

Only God knows.

Do not curse him who the Lord has blessed. The only ones we know for sure aren't blessed are those in Hell -- and we don't know with certainty who is in Hell!

Paul FHC · « **Reply #38 on:** July 10, 2016, 06:54:42 PM »

During my short time in Post Falls, I saw that the families who home-schooled their children were ostracized to some extent. It was somewhat of a status-symbol to have one's children in the Academy.

I guess peer-pressure may have been a factor on both the student and parental levels.

In light of the recent Kevin Sloniker scandal, I am suspicious at the cause of this streak of unnatural vice at Immaculate Conception. Has the pastor/pastors fostered a culture of don't-ask-don't-tell?

MaterDominici · « **Reply #39 on:** July 10, 2016, 07:03:44 PM »

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I have been told second-hand that the Society vigorously discourages home schooling but I have no first-hand knowledge of that.

It's not hard to imagine that when living near a Trad school, there is going to be pressure to enroll your children. Schools can offer more -- better teachers, more classes and activities, etc -- the more students they have. All of the families, teachers, and administration of the school see those who won't enroll their children as obstacles to their own success. It would be difficult for me to imagine it otherwise.

However, there are many SSPX locations without a school and I really doubt that homeschooling is discouraged in those locations. I've never seen it here.

Matthew · « **Reply #40 on:** July 10, 2016, 07:23:18 PM »

The fact is that anyone you meet on Earth has not yet been condemned. If God is allowing him to live longer, it is because of His mercy. Does He intend for this soul to convert at some point and glorify Him forever in heaven?

Only God knows for sure.

Do not curse him whom the Lord has blessed. The only ones we know for sure aren't blessed are those in Hell -- and we don't know with certainty who is in Hell! There is no "inverse canonization" by which the Church declares who is in Hell, indirectly telling us who we can hate.

Anyhow, you don't have to hate him to oppose him, prosecute him, dislike him, or even hate the sins (and/or actual demons) that have possession of him.

Don't fall into the trap of bitter zeal.

Quote from: Gospel of St. Matthew chapter 5

[43] You have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thy enemy. [44] But I say to you, Love your enemies: do good to them that hate you: and pray for them that persecute and calumniate you: [45] That you may be the children of your Father who is in heaven, who maketh his sun to rise upon the good, and bad, and raineth upon the just and the unjust.

[46] For if you love them that love you, what reward shall you have? do not even the publicans this? [47] And if you salute your brethren only, what do you more? do not also the heathens this? [48] Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 10, 2016, 07:46:53 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

I heard from a couple in Post Falls this morning. They report that the school will not close, but that they are already preparing for the opening of a new school year. I hear, furthermore, that Pharaoh Bernie hardened his heart. Originally, they had a new priest scheduled to take over for Fr. Vassal in the wake of the latest scandal. However that decision was reversed. Apparently, the sspx hierarchy, (Fellay?) informed concerned laity that nobody is going to tell Menzingen what to do. It is not our place.
What is more, apparently, 20 ICC families are pulling their kids out of ICA. I hope the report is true. Even better news would be that ICC was on the market and had been closed down altogether.

How Novus Ordo to close ranks behind the PEDERAST enablers.

BOTTOM LINE: With so many reports, to a moral certainty, we know that the priest(s) knew of problems with various individuals, and rampant SODOMITE activity in the school and chapel AND the priests have variously IGNORED, ENABLED, and LIED about the SINS THAT CRY TO HEAVEN FOR VENGEANCE, AND they have used their traditional "kill the messenger" modus operandi.

With the clarity of Catholic moral theology, to this point the involved SSPX priests and superiors are ACCOMPLICES in PEDERASTY and other CORRUPTION OF CHILDREN.

The fish is rotting from the head down.

cathman7 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 10, 2016, 08:05:03 PM »

Seriously, how was there not immediate action taken?

The poor innocence of these children...ripped away.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #43 on:** July 10, 2016, 10:06:44 PM »

This is a tough lesson, Matthew, but you have posted well and given the Catholic teaching on this item.

Good job, man.

The one problem I have with this scripture is the following: "That you may be the children of your Father who is in heaven, who maketh his sun to rise upon the good, and bad, and raineth upon the just and the unjust."

Why does our Father, who "raineth upon the just and unjust," see fit to not rain in California year after year?

.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #44 on:** July 11, 2016, 07:24:11 AM »

"It were better for him, that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should scandalize one of these little ones. "