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Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix update
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2019, 11:14:41 PM »
Did the SSPX's seminary instructors drastically change within the past few years (since the opening of their seminary in Virginia?)?

Not sure, except that I know none of the ones who were there when I was there are still there.  Fr. Peek was the last.

But that's less a problem than the program for formation.

Fr. Rutledge once announced (search CI for "Militant Anti-Resistance Sermon in St. Paul, MN"), in attempting to refute the Resistance in 2013, that the seminary still has all the same books as when he was there.

Well, he was ordained in 2009, and was in the first class of all-LeRoux priests.

But if the books and classes were the same, the spirit was completely different:

No more anti-modernist spiritual conference 3 days/week; that was the first casualty, which went out the door with +Williamson.

The new formation was all about virtue, not combat.

Meanwhile, the old hats sense the change, and go along or leave, so what is left is comprehensive metamorphosis into something very close to the FSSP.

Identical, really, except for the certain validity of orders.

Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix update
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2019, 01:25:23 PM »
But if the books and classes were the same, the spirit was completely different:
No more anti-modernist spiritual conference 3 days/week; that was the first casualty, which went out the door with +Williamson.
Seems similar to what happened to ++Lefebvre's seminary professor Fr. Le Floch.


Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix update
« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2019, 03:52:01 PM »
Fr. Haynos is leaving to teach at the Seminary and it wasn't by his request.  He is needed at the Seminary as a teacher.

Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix update
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2019, 06:23:33 PM »
Fr. Haynos is leaving to teach at the Seminary and it wasn't by his request.  He is needed at the Seminary as a teacher.
Well if that is the case it just proves what I have been saying in regards to the SSPX district doing what they want regardless of what they say or promise and how little they think of the parishioners of OLOS. I am of the opinion that were we still the cash cow we once were they would look elsewhere for a priest to teach at the seminary BUT due to no fault of our own we were bled dry by unscrupulous contractors and broken promises and no longer of any value 

Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix update
« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2019, 07:21:30 PM »
Well Town Crier there is not much to think over as you said. Again not in order, but I feel I must respond. 

I stand corrected, over the last years at the old church building we did have three Masses. You are correct. I forgot. The count for the three Masses was still at about 375.
I still stand buy my counts in the mid part of spring with an attendance as high as 650. Again I saw the counts. It always drops to a lower count in the summer with vacations and the snow birds taking off. So I still say attendance and donations, are creeping up, not jumping up, just creeping up. I think you have to look at a 12 month overall time frame and not several months. I am not sure what is going to happen if some of the larger families decide to jump over this school issue. Then we can expect a drop in both; that is for sure. I also wanted to let you know that the attendance at the high Mass this week was 238 not 175. Again, I asked. Also wanted to state that when  I talked to Father Haynos, that he told me to my face that he did not want to transfer and asked not to go. 
 And for you Hooligan:
Is maith an rud ata a ra agat agus ta suil agam go gcoinneoidh tu an dearcadh dearfach suas. Tuigimgo bhfuilfadhbanna againn ach ta na barulacha diultacha ag cur isteach  ar a bhfuilimid uilig ag irraidh a bhaint amach!