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Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2023, 07:56:45 AM »
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  • From what I have seen and heard of him in the past, Father Ballini seemed like a good and devout priest. 

    I have hopes for Ireland having him as a bishop and Father Chazal seems to support him and think we'll of him.  (I noticed he shared a post today about his being Resistance Bishop #5).

    And as for the "consecrating in secret"...  It may have caused less drama to have made it more public, but I can understand why it may have been kept more quiet.  There is SO MUCH drama in the traditional movement these days.  And...  Apparently Father Ballini made several enemies during COVID who would probably have tried to stop the Consecration from happening if they could have and knew beforehand.
    Bishop Bellini has a lot of courage. if I remember correctly that he had large processions through the streets of Ireland when it was obviously "illegal" during the severe lockdowns. Wish I had the video.

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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #31 on: January 06, 2023, 08:01:58 AM »
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  • Ireland is now seriously anti-Catholic, and especially anti traditional Catholic, and even more anti traditional Resistance Catholic. I think many here are not aware of this, and how bad the situation is there. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #32 on: January 06, 2023, 08:43:27 AM »
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  • Matthew made an algorithm whose purpose is supposed to keep a troll from coming on the forum & going on a downvote binge.  The problem is, there is a glitch in the system, whereby some members can't be downvoted at all, or barely at all (e.g. Ladislaus, but not only him), or at least, can't be downvoted by certain members.  There are a handful of posters I am totally unable to downvote, and I know that is true of some other members, and none of us would qualify for "already downvoted the poster too often" status.

    That's because the algorithm depends on the number of upvotes or downvotes you have relative to those that the target member has, and I and a handful of other members have a huge number of these due to our posting volume.

    I know that it annoys people, so I'm fine if Matthew wanted to put in a Ladislaus clause ..

    "if (user!='Ladislaus') { apply thumb rules }" and make it open season on Ladislaus because, well, I don't actually care.

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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #33 on: January 06, 2023, 08:45:59 AM »
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  • Why can’t I down vote Ladislaus on this thread? Every time I try I get kicked off Cathinfo…

    (I normally agree with a lot of what Ladislaus posts. But on this thread it’s garbage).

    Why don't you take a minute to explain what it is you object to?  There are about 3 or 4 things I could think of, depending on whether you are for or against Bishop Kelly's position on the +Thuc line, whether you objected to a differen post about needing underground priests, or my joke about the two bishops in every garage (again, indicated by the smilie to be a joke about Father Cekada's original article).

    I made 3-4 different posts from different angles, and your characterization of SOMEthing (unknown) as garbage is unhelpful and lazy.  You didn't even bother to quote the post you objected to.  I also believe that if you don't make a post on a thread you shouldn't be able to issue any downthumbs.

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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #34 on: January 06, 2023, 08:48:02 AM »
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  • Of course there will be, but we'd stay clear from such "secret clergy".

    "Secret Clergy" is a bit of a balance.  While they could be need, there does still have to be a way to verify that they're real when they do get "called into action", so that some fraudster can't simulate being a priest and cause harm to souls.  There was actually one Trad chapel where after many years they finally discovered that the man pretending to be their priest was actually never ordained, but was a total con artist.


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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #35 on: January 06, 2023, 08:48:51 AM »
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  • Bishop Richard Williamson consecrated Fr Ballini.

    Most of us assumed this, but it actually wasn't explicitly stated in the text, which was curious.

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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #36 on: January 06, 2023, 08:53:16 AM »
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  • 1. You're not getting kicked *off CathInfo* for anything unless you do something to get yourself banned. Are you saying you've been banned before?

    2. You can't down vote anybody *at all* so stop making it sound like a conspiracy. You haven't reached the requisite number of posts yet.

    3. Instead of anonymous sniping of Ladislaus, how about you write a POST and RESPOND like a man, telling Ladislaus to his face what you disagree with him about?

    Good points.  I made about 3-4 posts on different subjects here, and a categorical denunciation of it as "garbage" gives me clue what he was even objeting to.  I tried to make it clear with generous use of smilies that I was joking in a couple cases, and the jokes were not directed at this situation (the Father Ballini consecration) but about tangential issues like the old Father Cekada article and Bishop Kelly's view of ordination validity.  Probably the subtle serious point I was making under the surface is that Bishop Kelly had developed a strict view of what's necessary for valid ordinations / consecrations.  For Bishop Kellly, if there were not two COMPETENT Witnesses who could positively attest to the proper form and matter, the Sacrament is to be considered doubtful and avoided.  Bishop Williamson did not explain the circuмstances.  Were their any witnesses present?  Is there a video of the ceremony.  Without these two, Bishop Kelly would consider the consecration effectively invalid.  That then raises the serious point of whether Bishop Kelly is right.  IMO, no, he's way off base.

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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #37 on: January 06, 2023, 08:56:28 AM »
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  • For a little local knowledge from Ireland here. I think if you remember Bp. Ballini was consecrated because of lockdowns. Ireland had the most severe lockdowns and was difficult for anti-vaxxers to enter the country.

    So did the consecration occur before the lockdowns?  If not, how did Bishop Ballini get back into Ireland, or were thing more lenient within the UK somehow?


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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #38 on: January 06, 2023, 09:41:46 AM »
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  • Bishop Ballini would travel back via N. Ireland which is a UK territory and then drive down south.

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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #39 on: January 06, 2023, 10:16:51 AM »
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  • You don’t need proof of vaccination for flights within the UK.

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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #40 on: January 06, 2023, 10:27:24 AM »
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  • For a little local knowledge from Ireland here. I think if you remember Bp. Ballini was consecrated because of lockdowns. Ireland had the most severe lockdowns and was difficult for anti-vaxxers to enter the country. With Bp. Ballini’s project seminarians were due to be ordained and with possibly even more severe lockdowns and Ireland’s geographical isolation the seminarians needed a bishop close by in case we were shut off from everyone.
    The other thing as to keeping it secret was because of media persecution. I will leave it at that. I may incur the wrath of His Lordship.

    In Maria Virginis
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    Thank you so much for taking the time to share these facts...  It confirms what I suspected as to why the Consecration was kept secret.  🥰
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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #41 on: January 06, 2023, 10:29:34 AM »
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  • Bishop Ballini would travel back via N. Ireland which is a UK territory and then drive down south.
    We were in Ireland the summer before COVID happened for a family reunion with my maternal grandmother's family.   I have good memories of going to the chapel near the border of Northern Ireland and southern Ireland.  I hope all is going well out there!  :pray:
    "Jesus, Meek and Humble of Heart, make my heart like unto Thine!"

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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #42 on: January 06, 2023, 11:31:00 AM »
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  • Here AMDGJMJ please pray for the man whose property the chapel is on. He had a major stroke some time ago and survived. He has I have been informed made some recovery but to what extent I’m not sure.

    In Christo 
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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #43 on: January 06, 2023, 05:35:43 PM »
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    Re: New Resistance Bishop- ELEISON COMMENTS - Fr Ballini
    « Reply #44 on: January 06, 2023, 06:00:47 PM »
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  • Beat you to it, Josefa. Reply 19.

    Can you find the one where he spoke from that same rotunda about the Corona scam? He is indeed a courageous priest/bishop.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024