On June 9, 2020, Archbishop Vigano first came out with the position that V2 is radically defective and must be completely pitched, responding to Bishop Schneider's claim that it just needs a few minor corrections ... thereby swinging to the right of "95%" Fellay, like two ships passing in the night.

With such a position, there's really no justification for a Traditional movement not in union with the "hierarchy".  Such would be schismatic.  In fact, they implicitly denounce the old SSPX and +Lefebvre of schism, between this and things like having NO presbyters witnessing marriages.  So we're all those Catholics married in front of SSPX priests in the past invalidly married?  At this point, they really should just merge with FSSP.

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Vatican II is a mess.  Many Catholics are divorced and remarried, pro sodomy, pro abortion.  Mostly because no one knows their faith.  It was done on purpose to be the one world secular global religion.  Also, many Catholics are free masons.  Many are obsessed with Divine Mercy and Mejagorje too.  There are a few good Catholics and clergy.

I just don’t understand why anyone would go along with a such an evil man?  He never was Pope.

I wonder if there is still a picture of Bergolio hanging in Sspx chapels. 

I was with you until you threw a rock through the window with the dig at Divine Mercy and Mejagorje... I don't know much at all about Mejagorje so I'm not going there, but I do know about Divine Mercy, which was Pre-Vatican II just FYI.

Divine Mercy seems to be the easy and current one to pick on, because it was approved post Vatican II, nevertheless, you can throw rocks at any of them if you really wanted to, Fatima, Sacred Heart etc etc, I'd give them more weight if these people had actually read the book without an agenda before they chucked their stones.

The great irony is that people will give St Margaret Mary Alacoque a free pass on questionable things like carving Jesus name into her breast and signing a docuмent in her blood (and I very much also believe in the Sacred Heart, but for other reasons) but then they'll take a magnifying glass to Divine Mercy and try to strain out something that isn't even as questionable as the former in order to reject and condemn anyone who believes it... talk about picking and choosing. 

The Orthodox will also condemn such private revelation out of hand because of the biases they have and on and on it goes, it's enough for one to say they aren't convinced, but when they call it stuff like 'demonic' and they haven't even read it and especially in light of what is in there, it's just ridiculous and exposes their prejudices, it's the same irritation I get from militant atheists who can't prove anything but act like it's settled and they know it all... it's a certain pride that gets under my skin with such declarations.

I mean, I have my doubts about Louis IX of France given he was canonized by Boniface VIII who usurped St Pope Celestine V, but I don't condemn those who believe he is a Saint.

My main point, there is nothing about the Divine Mercy that can justify any of the other things you mentioned with it. In fact, exactly the opposite.

823 December 17, [1936]. I have offered this day for priests. I have suffered more today than ever before, both interiorly and exteriorly. I did not know it was possible to suffer so much in one day. I tried to make a Holy Hour, in the course of which my spirit had a taste of the bitterness of the Garden of Gethsemane. I am fighting alone, supported by His arm, against all the difficulties that face me like unassailable walls. But I trust in the power of His name and I fear nothing.

824 In this seclusion, Jesus himself is my Master. He himself educates and instructs me. I feel that I am the object of His special action. For His inscrutable purposes and unfathomable decrees, He unites me to Himself in a special way and allows me to penetrate His incomprehensible mysteries. There is one mystery which unites me with the Lord, of which no one-not even angels-may know. And even if I wanted to tell of it, I would not know how to express it. And yet, I live by it and will live by it for ever. This mystery distinguishes me from every other soul here on earth or in eternity.

Jorge Mario Bergoglio -
Born: December 17, 1936

"Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

God Bless

I wonder if there is still a picture of Bergolio hanging in Sspx chapels. 

Yes, a photo of his grinning countenance gazes at the priests in all the SSPX sacristies 

Before the Rosary, Divine Mercy, etc. ,

St Patrick converted many in Ireland  to Christianity with only the Word of God.  St Patrick lived his faith. 

I was with you until you threw a rock through the window with the dig at Divine Mercy and Mejagorje... I don't know much at all about Mejagorje so I'm not going there, but I do know about Divine Mercy, which was Pre-Vatican II just FYI.

Divine Mercy seems to be the easy and current one to pick on, because it was approved post Vatican II, nevertheless, you can throw rocks at any of them if you really wanted to, Fatima, Sacred Heart etc etc, I'd give them more weight if these people had actually read the book without an agenda before they chucked their stones.

It has nothing to do with being pre/post vatican 2. Only that both mejagorie and the divine mercy contradict the Catholic faith. The Church teaches that if a private revelation or anything such thing contradicts the Catholic faith in even the SLIGHTEST DEGREE, it is to be considered as coming from the devil.

Also the divine mercy has similarities (retcon) with other condemned devotions.