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More on the Sellout of SSPX
« on: March 26, 2019, 10:54:17 PM »
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    • In the Blink of an Eye, the Neo-SSPX's De-facto Leader, Bernie Fellay
    Has Been Selling out the Society's Sacraments to the Novus Ordo Sect
    The Neo-SSPX Is Now Actively Seeking "Permission" from Newchurch
    To Perform Marriages
    Now Neo-SSPXers Cannot Be Assured of a Traditional Catholic Marriage
    The Neo-SSPX Is Going Full Tilt toward Becoming a Cog
    In the Newchurch of the New Order
    Not Being Traditional Catholic Organization
    It seems that Bernie Fellay and his puppet David Pagliarani are concealing yet another dirty little secret from their members. They don't want Neo-SSPXers to know wholesale that their Neo-SSPX is selling out its marriages to the heretical Newchurch sect. The Neo-SSPX now admits that it is not controlling its marriages, but rather defers to the Novus Ordo for "permission." The Neo-SSPX is going full tilt toward being a cog in the Newchurch of the New Order, not being a traditional Catholic organization. Now that Neo-SSPXers cannot be assured of a traditional Catholic marriage. Similar goings-on are occurring with Confessions.
    On March 21, 2019, it slipped out that in the United States the Pagliarani-Fellay dictatorship is actively seeking out Newchurch dioceses for "permission" to conduct its weddings. The Neo-SSPX has so far approached 45 Newdioceses for such "permission." It also slipped out that in order to get the "stamp of approval" of the heretical Newchurch sect, the Pagliarani-Fellay dictatorship is actively inviting fake Newchurch bishops (Newchurch has not consecrated bishops since 1968, when Newchurch substituted the invalid, Protestantized New Ordinal for the traditional Sacrament of Holy Orders) to "pontificate" at its priories, chapels, schools, and retreats. For all intents and purposes, the Pagliarani-Fellay Neo-SSPX has already passed into the heretical New Order sect. [Some information for this Commentary was contributed by the U.K. Catholic Herald.]
    True Catholics, undoubtedly such sellouts by the Fellay-Pagliarani Neo-SSPX to the heretical New Order are going on in other countries around the world as well, but the Neo-SSPX doesn't want the word to get out wholesale. If the Neo-SSPXers found out about the sellout, many of them would fall away because of the corruption, just as so many of the Newchurchers are falling away from Newchurch because of the corruption in Newchurch. The Neo-SSPXers will simply fall away without a fight because they are taught a kind of false obedience to corrupt leaders rather than to Our Lord Jesus Christ and the true Catholic Faith. The way things are going, by the time the Neo-SSPX signs the papers to be formally baptized into the heretical Newchurch, there won't be much of Newchurch left!
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #1 on: March 26, 2019, 11:00:52 PM »
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    • The deal was made years ago.  Now is the next phase. 
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #2 on: March 26, 2019, 11:06:20 PM »
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    • Many Catholics are praying that the SSPX can straighten out the novus ordo.  ( I pray that the SSPX can straighten out the novus ordo). 
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #3 on: March 26, 2019, 11:09:02 PM »
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    • IF SSPX WAS ROME'S SUPERIORS POSSIBLY, WISHFUL THINKING ON SSPX PART UNTIL ROME COMES BACK TO TRADITION !
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #4 on: March 28, 2019, 06:46:14 AM »
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    • From traditio.com - Hope the parents pull their kids.  

    March 30, 2019 - Ferial Day of Lent
    Schism Is Brewing within the Neo-SSPX against Superiors Fellay and Pagliarani
    They Expelled a School's Nuns because They Would Not Recognize the New Order Sect
    From: The TRADITIO Fathers
    The Neo-SSPX's New Superior-Dictator Davide Pagliarani
    Expels St. Michael School's Nuns
    Because They Wouldn't Accept the Official Reception at the School
    Of the Local Invalid Novus Ordo Bishop
    The Nuns Objected to the Neo-SSPX's Official Recognition
    Of a Heretic, Unconsecrated Novus Ordo Bishop
    Many of the Parents at the School Are Standing with the Nuns
    And Preparing to Pull Their Children out of the Compromised School
    The parents of children at the Neo-SSPX's St. Michael's School in Burghclere, U.K., have been informed on March 27, 2019, that Sister Mary Elizabeth, the head of the nuns at the school, has been fired. This head nun has been given just 36 hours to get out of the Neo-SSPX building or be thrown out. The other nuns have been forced to leave as well. The Neo-SSPX's new Superior Dictator, Davide Pagliarani, oversaw the nuns' expulsion. The parents at the school are very upset. A climate of fear now prevails against the Neo-SSPX Superior-Dictators, who browbeat these dedicated nuns.
    And what crime did this highly-respected nun, one of the best teachers at the school, and her fellow sisters commit? Did they sɛҳuąƖly assault the students? No. She and the other nuns objected to the official reception at the school of the local invalid Novus Ordo bishop, Philip Egan. The TRADITIO Network previously covered that development, and how not only the nuns, but many of the parents, had objected to the Neo-SSPX's official recognition of a heretic, unconsecrated Novus Ordo bishop.
    Fellay and Pagliarani have gone even farther toward recognition of the heretical Newchurch of the New Order. In order to qualify for a bursary for the new school year, they have had it written into the contract with the parents that parents qualify only if they accept the Novus Ordo "hierarchy of the Catholic [sic] Church." By this term the Neo-SSPX is referring to the Novus Ordo clergy, who are not priests and bishops, but are the unconsecrated and unordained clergy of the New Order, which has accepted the invalid Protestantized Ordinal of 1968. No wonder the traditional Catholic nuns refused to submit. Archbishop Lefebvre would have been proud of them!
    The St. Michael's parents are good traditional Catholics trying to do their best for their children. But under Fellay and Pagliarani, the Neo-SSPX is being run by the "thought police." Pagliarani, in fact, interrogated all the nuns together and individually to make sure that their allegiance is to the Newchurch of the New Order. The history of the Neo-SSPX is that it treats its priests, religious, and laypeople like trash. If they overstep Bernie Fellay's dictatorial edits, they are almost literally thrown out on the street. They are not given time to wrap up their affairs and some funds in light of their previous service to find new lodgings. This is not Catholic; this is not even Christian. But this is the ilk that took over the SSPX and turned it into the Neo-SSPX after the death of Archbishop Lefebvre in 1991.
    Just as the Catholic Church was replaced by the Newchurch of the New Order as the "institutional" Church (which is not the true Catholic Church), so Archbishop Lefebvre's original traditional Catholic SSPX was replaced by the Novus Ordoized Neo-SSPX of Bernie Fellay, and now his henchman, David Pagliarani. What Fellay and Pagliarani are doing is exactly what the Archbishop spend much of his life opposing. They are rapidly turning their Neo-SSPX into a slave of the anti-Catholic New Order.
    TRADITIO is practically the only independent source of information for traditional Catholics that is covering this important development, which reveals a lot about the dismal future of the Neo-SSPX under the stratagems of Bernie Fellay and his puppet, David Pagliarani, who have broken with the original traditional Catholic principles of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the original traditional Catholic Society of St. Pius X to be subsumed into the New Order. Shortly the thought police and firings of Neo-SSPX clergy and religious are going to spread to other Neo-SSPX sites around the world.


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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #5 on: March 28, 2019, 07:31:14 AM »
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    • Are there any other sources reporting on this story?
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #6 on: March 28, 2019, 08:33:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: pearl777 on March 28, 2019, 06:46:14 AM
    From traditio.com - Hope the parents pull their kids.  

    March 30, 2019 - Ferial Day of Lent
    No wonder no one else is reporting on it yet -- it's from the future!
    How are they able to send a story from 2 days in the future back to us? They could have at least included winning lottery numbers...
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #7 on: March 28, 2019, 08:49:16 AM »
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    • I just received this forwarded email:

    *A SPECIAL PRAYER REQUEST*

    This message came to me via a friend of mine in the UK.


    "This evening Sr Mary Elizabeth (headmistress of The SSPX primary School in UK) was expelled with 36 hours notice to leave with money for a hotel.

    It is punishment because she would not participate in a diocesan coastal rosary or the Modernist Novus Ordo Bishop 's visit to the school. Neither would the sisters or novice that she is in charge of. They are all leaving before the Easter term. I have been in contact with her throughout the last 72 hours. I spoke to Sister Mary Elizabeth a couple of minutes ago and realized how unworldly she is! She has no bank account and the mobile phone that she has belongs to someone else who insisted that she have it - it needs to be formatted so as to delete her private messages and to transfer her contacts. I am concerned for her she is more vulnerable than I thought. Please could you put out a mega request for prayer for her to find a convent and land for her and her sisters here in the UK?"

    It remains to be seen whether these nuns will avail themselves of the assistance of the Resistance bishops, but it would seem Providence is pushing them in that direction.
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #8 on: March 28, 2019, 09:04:09 AM »
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    • Thank heaven that at least the WOMEN in the SSPX still have some backbone.
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #9 on: March 28, 2019, 09:09:01 AM »
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    • Here is the issue:

    The SSPX has fallen. That is the objective truth.

    Various faithful, religious and clergy can react as they will to this -- but they will continuously bump up against this reality. Reality is a harsh mistress.

    Just like some priests in the Novus Ordo wake up to Tradition slowly at first, trying to "have it both ways" and stay on good terms with their bishop and other Church authorities -- but eventually a situation arises, things come to a head, and they have to make a decisive choice. At that moment, they see the wisdom of those who have been there all along (Traditional Catholics, the Resistance, etc.) and hopefully they make the right decision -- to join them.

    Eventually every single layman, religious and priest will have to choose between the Catholic Faith and the new Vatican II religion of man. Right now, that doesn't seem so obvious to many SSPX-attendees. Everything "seems" normal. It "seems" like they can have it both ways; seem to reject the Novus Ordo and still have their Tridentine Mass on Sunday. But ultimately, and before too long, each and every individual will be forced to choose. Some sooner than others.

    Remember all those martyrs who were held at sword-point and forced to make a choice: burn a grain of incense to the false gods, or stay faithful to Christ and lose their life. Many individuals chose Christ, and many (who we have forgotten) chose to compromise and burn the incense. But think about it: for weeks and months (or even years) beforehand, they were able to have it both ways and attend their local Catacombs chapel for Mass, and still be on good terms with the Roman authorities. But eventually they were forced to choose...
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #10 on: March 28, 2019, 09:22:06 AM »
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    • I seem to recall an online interview or sermon from Archbishop Lefebvre recounting how the sisters of his day had refused to allow conciliar bishops to visit their community because of the liberal infection he would spread, with the result being a divided community.

    When I find it, it will make the CCCC thread.

    It is rather refreshing to be back to the tactics of 2011-2012, where no fidelity to ABL was permitted if it threatened a pluralistic reconciliation.
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #11 on: March 28, 2019, 09:31:52 AM »
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    • Remember all those martyrs who were held at sword-point and forced to make a choice: burn a grain of incense to the false gods, or stay faithful to Christ and lose their life. Many individuals chose Christ, and many (who we have forgotten) chose to compromise and burn the incense. But think about it: for weeks and months (or even years) beforehand, they were able to have it both ways and attend their local Catacombs chapel for Mass, and still be on good terms with the Roman authorities. But eventually they were forced to choose...

    And woe to them who make the wrong choice!

    I pray that these Sisters make the right choice. God is practically speaking to them what they should do. They need no more information or clues from God as to what they must do. When the Faith is at stake, God's will is obvious, every bit as obvious as if Jesus Christ Himself were to appear in person and speak to them.
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #12 on: March 28, 2019, 09:52:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: X on March 28, 2019, 09:22:06 AM
    I seem to recall an online interview or sermon from Archbishop Lefebvre recounting how the sisters of his day had refused to allow conciliar bishops to visit their community because of the liberal infection he would spread, with the result being a divided community.

    When I find it, it will make the CCCC thread.

    It is rather refreshing to be back to the tactics of 2011-2012, where no fidelity to ABL was permitted if it threatened a pluralistic reconciliation.

    Archbishop Lefebvre:

    “The sisters of Saint-Michel-en-Brenne, the Dominican Sisters of Fanjeaux and Brignoles1, are all against the agreement: "We should not depend on Ratzinger, they say... Imagine if he came to give us conferences! He would divide us!"

    https://tradidi.com/lefebvre-advice-four-bishops-elect

    But today, the sisters are punished for taking exactly the same posture against the visit of a mere diocesan bishop:

    What was laudable common sense to Archbishop Lefebvre is disobedient subversiveness to the neo-SSPX.
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #13 on: March 28, 2019, 10:04:26 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on March 28, 2019, 08:33:20 AM
    No wonder no one else is reporting on it yet -- it's from the future!
    How are they able to send a story from 2 days in the future back to us? They could have at least included winning lottery numbers...

    Too late.  Someone won the big PowerBall last night.

    Traditio does that.  They order their commentaries by the feast days, and when they have a lot to talk about, they go ahead a few days in time. 
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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #14 on: March 28, 2019, 10:07:11 AM »
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    • That's just very nasty treatment of the poor Sister.  They should be deeply ashamed of themselves.
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