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Offline Mr G

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Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2019, 10:19:42 AM »
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  • I just received this forwarded email:

    *A SPECIAL PRAYER REQUEST*

    This message came to me via a friend of mine in the UK.


    "This evening Sr Mary Elizabeth (headmistress of The SSPX primary School in UK) was expelled with 36 hours notice to leave with money for a hotel.

    It remains to be seen whether these nuns will avail themselves of the assistance of the Resistance bishops, but it would seem Providence is pushing them in that direction.
    Please contact the friend who originally sent this e-mail to ask the Sisters to contact Bishop Williams and he can help arrange them to stay with the former SSPX Sister in France.
    Are all these Sisters of the SSPX or do they belong to another Traditional order that collaborates with the SSPX?

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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #16 on: March 28, 2019, 10:29:08 AM »
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  • Here is their contact info. if anyone would like to confirm if the story is true:

    Rev. Fr. John Brucciani
     Headmaster
     St. Michael’s School
     Harts Lane
     Burghclere
     Hampshire RG20 9JW


    secretary@sanctusmichael.com
     +44 1635 278 137



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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #17 on: March 28, 2019, 10:35:48 AM »
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  • Please contact the friend who originally sent this e-mail to ask the Sisters to contact Bishop Williams and he can help arrange them to stay with the former SSPX Sister in France.
    Are all these Sisters of the SSPX or do they belong to another Traditional order that collaborates with the SSPX?
    I have notified several Resistance bishops and clergy (in France, England, and America) about the situation, and proposed arranging at least temporary accommodations with the sisters in France.

    Ps: Soon I will also pass along your good advice to the friend who is in contact with the sisters to have them reach out to the sisters in France as well.

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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #18 on: March 28, 2019, 11:09:07 AM »
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  • Ps: I have also inquired about the Sisters’ personal contact info.  If it is given, I will post it.  

    She/they will need our help now.

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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #19 on: March 28, 2019, 11:44:23 AM »
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  • The St. Michael's parents are good traditional Catholics trying to do their best for their children. But under Fellay and Pagliarani, the Neo-SSPX is being run by the "thought police." Pagliarani, in fact, interrogated all the nuns together and individually to make sure that their allegiance is to the Newchurch of the New Order. The history of the Neo-SSPX is that it treats its priests, religious, and laypeople like trash. If they overstep Bernie Fellay's dictatorial edits, they are almost literally thrown out on the street. They are not given time to wrap up their affairs and some funds in light of their previous service to find new lodgings. This is not Catholic; this is not even Christian. But this is the ilk that took over the SSPX and turned it into the Neo-SSPX after the death of Archbishop Lefebvre in 1991.

    If this information is true (and it looks to be), then Fr. Pagliarani is using the same bully tactics that Bp. Fellay used against those who would not submit to the new agenda of collaborating with the conciliar church. It is very telling that Fr. Pagliarani interrogated the nuns in order to make sure of their allegiance to the SSPX agenda with the conciliar church.

    It looks like Traditio has contacts in the SSPX (at least in the UK), since Traditio reported on this important development before Cath Info, Non Possumus, or the Resistance website in France. Though Traditio keeps saying that the nuns were against the "unconsecrated" and "invalid" Novus Ordo priests and bishops, I think it more likely that they just didn't want to compromise or have anything to do with the modernist conciliar church and clergy. Hopefully we'll get more info on the matter in the near future.

    Maybe a prayer thread should be started for the nuns?
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #20 on: March 28, 2019, 12:18:01 PM »
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  • I have notified several Resistance bishops and clergy (in France, England, and America) about the situation, and proposed arranging at least temporary accommodations with the sisters in France.

    Ps: Soon I will also pass along your good advice to the friend who is in contact with the sisters to have them reach out to the sisters in France as well.
    Thank you, even if the Sisters are not sympathetic to the Resistance, at least the offer should be made to help them with temporary home.

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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #21 on: March 28, 2019, 04:37:56 PM »
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  • The news gets even bigger:

    I was not aware she was Mother Superior of all the SSPX sisters in Great Britain.

    http://tradcatresist.blogspot.com/2019/03/big-news-from-uk.html?m=1


    “Big News From The UK
    Sister Mary-Elizabeth, Mother Superior of the SSPX nuns in the UK, has decided to leave the SSPX. The SSPX have failed to change her mind and she will leave in a few days to an undisclosed location. Held in great respect, she is thought not to have been happy with the recent happenings at the school, although it has not been stated whether this is the reason for her leaving. It is a fact that she was asked to explain her and her fellow nuns non-appearance at the visit of Bishop Egan, to Second Assistant of the SSPX Fr Bouchacourt yesterday.

    We would ask all readers that they pray that she may have the courage to join with the work of the four Resistant bishops following the work of Archbishop Lefebvre.

    Her fellow nuns, whilst remaining in the SSPX, have asked the General House for new placements.”

    Sad to see the other nuns lack the steel of their Mother Superior, and appear to be willing to remain aboard the Titanic!

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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #22 on: March 28, 2019, 07:08:43 PM »
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  • I am not able to reveal this source, but the information is indisputably correct given the identity of the source:


    Dear X,

    This is the summary of the situation with the Oblate Sisters:

    They are 5 sisters + a novice.

    The superior Sr Marie Elisabeth and the other sisters manifested the decision of leaving the School and the Oblate sisters before the recent visit of the local novus ordo bishop.

    But given that they (and a certain number of parents) didn’t attend the bishop’s visit, Fr Bouchacourt came and forced them to leave ASAP.

    After reading the docuмents from the last General Chapter Sr M-E arrived at the conviction that the SSPX was taking a wrong path.

    They’re now out of the School, some of them living with their families.

    Sr M-E is French, one from Kenya, 2 from the Philippines.

    [...] thinks they’re already in contact with Bp W.

    [...] hopes the sisters work with the Resistance.

    You may share this information but without specifying the source [...] and without mentioning my name.


    PS: See also the CCCC thread for additional information


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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #23 on: March 29, 2019, 01:56:54 PM »
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  • Update:
    http://resistance.vraiforum.com/t882-Du-nouveau-dans-la-liquidation-de-l-ancienne-FSSPX.htm


    Dear Parents,
    Fr. Robert Brucciani has asked me to announce the news of Sr. Mary Elizabeth’s decision to leave the Society of St. Pius X. Sister will leave in the next few days and move on to a place which she has not disclosed.
    Her decision dates from several months ago but we have only known about it very recently. Superiors have not been successful in guiding her to a change of mind.

    The General House has also received requests from the other Sisters for new placements. In view of the difficulties they have experienced for some time now, they are in need of rest and discernment. The Sisters will, therefore, depart from St. Michael’s after Easter and take up residence abroad in different houses of the Society.
    I cannot hide that the loss of the Sisters’ community comes as a tremendous blow. It reminds us that the crisis in the Church is still very much alive. Such events can even test our Faith. We must not, however, lose our trust in Divine Providence.
    The Junior School staff have convened and for the remainder of this term and for next term, junior classes will be organised as follows: Mrs Joyce will take responsibility for Year 1. Miss Dunn will teach Years 2 and 3. Mr Hooley will teach Years 4, 5 and 6. Several pupils presently in Year 3 will pass to Year 4 after consultation with parents.
    This redistribution of classes allows for classes to continue with minimal disruption. I am very grateful to the Junior staff for their readiness to give their all for the good of the children.

    The school will seek to employ a new deputy-head of the Junior School in readiness for the new school year. It is too early to know if we will receive a new community of nuns. For this we can only pray.
    In the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary,
    Rev. Fr. John Brucciani
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    St. Michael's School
    Burghclere, Hampshire RG20 9JW

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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #24 on: March 29, 2019, 05:19:49 PM »
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  • This is disgraceful, not Catholic, even by novus ordo, standards.  It's fortunate some of the sisters still have families to return to.  If it comes down to sleeping rough, may I suggest someone in England at least offer a roof and food?  Barring that, a tent or a van to live in until a better arrangement can be found.  Twice I've found myself homeless by the malice of others.  The first time I owned a bicycle and had a part time job while I was at University.  I purchased a tent and pitched it in the woods in an out of the way location.  I lived in it rent free for four months over the spring/summer months.  I was then eligible for discount housing through the university.  
    The second time I lived out of and sometimes in my car.  This proved more difficult as I was in a large city and working full-time at a job. I would have lost my position had my homelessness been found out or my physical appearance noticeably deteriorated.  I eventually found a "safe" place to park at night amongst various night and rotating shift workers.  There were black car taxis, ambulance drivers, the 6 hr. on, 6 hr. off security for a nearby hospital and an assortment of car and van stealth dwellers.  The main drawback was lack of a restroom.  I could shower at the pool and gym attached to my work building.  At night, there was no choice but to resort to a clump of shrubs behind a store--OK for a guy, but not so nice for a woman.  The store had free Wi-Fi which could be picked up if you parked close to the building.  Thanks to this, I was able to take two on-line classes.  It lasted three months, which was plenty at age 55.  
    Certainly, the homeless sisters should seek out Bp. Williamson.  Even if they don't join the resistance, I cannot imagine him leaving them out in the open.

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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #25 on: April 01, 2019, 12:28:59 PM »
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  • I can't help but find it somewhat ironic that the resistance began as a sort of lay-grassroots movement to provide for the priests who would (supposedly) be leaving in droves after 2012, yet it is the nuns... how many convents has Menz squashed so far?


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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #26 on: April 01, 2019, 09:27:52 PM »
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  • Maybe a prayer thread should be started for the nuns?
    How about a Paypal account?

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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #27 on: April 02, 2019, 09:47:47 AM »
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  • Can someone connected with the school, confirm that the teaching staff and the parents were obliged to a sign a docuмent saying that they recognise the diocesian bishop?

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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #28 on: April 05, 2019, 06:40:49 AM »
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  • How about a Paypal account?

    “Ask, and you shall receive:”

    http://tradcatresist.blogspot.com/2019/04/lenten-almsgiving.html?m=1

    Friday, 5 April 2019
    Lenten Almsgiving

    I believe that it is important to show your thanks to the priests who often travel phenomenal distances to bring the sacraments to those who refuse to be willfully blind to what has happened to the SSPX. Easter dues are one of the ways in which we can show our appreciation. Often laity go 'the extra mile' by also sending donations to missionary territory which is an admirable practice. This year I wonder if I might propose that people consider helping the TWO poor Sisters in England who were recently shabbily treated over their opposition to the liberal trend of the SSPX.

    They are being helped by laity sympathetic to the Resistance and I can confirm that they are in touch with Resistance priests.

    Please consider helping them in this transition period that I imagine must be difficult.

    Donations can be sent via PayPal using this email address:


      srmelisabeth@outlook.com


    ..or directly to the following bank account:

      Account holder - C. Bastin
        Sort Code - 30-95-89
        Account number - 56210860



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    Re: More on the Sellout of SSPX
    « Reply #29 on: April 05, 2019, 03:33:37 PM »
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  • Two? Who's the other one?