Author Topic: "Pope Michael" on the SSPX (Read 40803 times)

cathman7 · « **Reply #75 on:** February 02, 2014, 10:24:42 AM »

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Does anyone but his mother think he is actually the Vicar of Christ?

I read that he recently got a Bishop to ordain him a priest, consecrate him a bishop, and follow him. I think it was a Thuc line bishop. So he does have a small following. :king:

The consecrator is Bishop Robert Biarnesen. Does anyone know anything about him?

A simple google search turns up the following link:

http://popemichael.vaticaninexile.com/Files/The%20Consecration%20of%20Pope%20Michael.pdf

Who Is Bishop Robert Biarnesen?

Bishop Biarnesen left the Novus Ordo in the mid 1980's. He had already begun to
work in prison ministry in Texas as a layman. A Traditionalist priest, Fr. Carl
Pulvermacher, recommended he go over to a Bishop in the Duarte-Costa line in order to be ordained a deacon. In 1986 he was indeed ordained deacon. In 2005 he moved to Arizona and began prison ministry there. At the recommendation of the officials he
sought ordination in the Duarte-Costa line so he could continue ministry as a priest. He
had made contact with the Vatican in Exile earlier on and continued to email on occasion, until 2010 when he offered to assist in obtaining ordination and consecration for Pope Michael. This was finally accomplished after much effort at the end of 2011 as reported above. Bishop Biarnesen is in full communion with the Catholic Church under HisHoliness Pope Michael.

cathman7 · « **Reply #76 on:** February 02, 2014, 10:29:55 AM »

Here are some photos:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.403269786369604.105467.205851636111421&type=3

Bizarre...

Sienna629 · « **Reply #77 on:** February 02, 2014, 05:41:04 PM »

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A guy who has no evidence of ever having been ordained a priest or consecrated a bishop, claims to occupy the Seat of Peter, because his parents and relatives held a papal election. That same man, proceeds to celebrate or pretend to celebrate the Holy Mass, and then points the finger at ABL for never declaring the new rite of ordination to be invalid. Is "pope" Michael's ordination valid? Who performed it? How about his consecration? Furthermore, even as a layman, his argument against ABL is ludicrous, because how could ABL have made a declaration of something about which he was not certain? Is "pope" Michael suggesting the the archbishop should have lied??? And his reasoning for why ABL should have made the declaration is for political/pragmatic reasons. Does the Holy Church make theological declarations based on politics, pragmatics, and convenience??? So let me reiterate what others have said already, who cares what "pope" Michael thinks?

From official records David Bawden was ordained a priest and consecrated a bishop (photos of the event):

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.403269786369604.105467.205851636111421&type=3

Of course that doesn't make him a POPE!!!

These pictures do not prove anything-------haven't you seen kids play house?

You did not answer the question-----Who ordained him a priest? when? and where?

As for the episcopal consecration, I would seriously question the credentials of the one consecrating him.

Sienna629 · « **Reply #78 on:** February 02, 2014, 05:45:21 PM »

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Anyone who thinks that "Pope Michael" is the Holy Father, the Vicar of Christ on earth is a nut. I say it without hesitation. If anyone on this forum thinks Pope Michael is really and truly the pope, that person is a nut! He is deluded. He is not in possession of his faculties. He is, spiritually speaking, a moron!

In that case, it would be a case of mental illness and not malice nor ignorance.

I don't think anyone who posts on CathInfo thinks "Pope" Michael is actually the Vicar of Christ.

Does anyone but his mother think he is actually the Vicar of Christ?

Apparently not many, as the (poor-quality) video they show of his "Christ the King" Mass last Fall doesn't even show an altar server; he does all of the responses himself.

Sienna629 · « **Reply #79 on:** February 02, 2014, 05:56:59 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: Sigismund

Does anyone but his mother think he is actually the Vicar of Christ?

I read that he recently got a Bishop to ordain him a priest, consecrate him a bishop, and follow him. I think it was a Thuc line bishop. So he does have a small following. :king:

The Duarte-Costa line is not the Thuc line........it is more bizarre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Duarte_Costa]