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Are SSPX Religious Houses More "Resistant" ?
« on: June 08, 2024, 08:11:59 AM »
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    • Is there anything to the idea that the SSPX monastery(ies) and religious houses are less "accordista" than the Priories?  Any special mentions?  What about the benedictines in Silver City?
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    Re: Are SSPX Religious Houses More "Resistant" ?
    « Reply #1 on: June 08, 2024, 08:31:23 PM »
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    • I didn’t know the SSPX had monasteries.
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    Re: Are SSPX Religious Houses More "Resistant" ?
    « Reply #2 on: June 08, 2024, 10:03:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Steve on June 08, 2024, 08:11:59 AM
    Is there anything to the idea that the SSPX monastery(ies) and religious houses are less "accordista" than the Priories?  Any special mentions?  What about the benedictines in Silver City?

    They either support the Resistance, or they don't.

    They might not be chomping at the bit to involve themselves more & more with the Conciliar Church, but let's face it: what's going to happen is going to happen. If they aren't supporting and working with the Resistance and its bishops, what happens when the SSPX directs them to a Conciliar bishop for their holy oils? For their ordinations? What happens if the local Conciliar bishop decides this monastery or that convent is problematic for whatever reason? Perhaps it's too "divisive" or "controversial".

    Long story short, it's dangerous and foolish to get too close and cozy with the Conciliar Church at this juncture. If +ABL was negative on the Conciliar Church in 1991, what would he think of it today? Let's face it -- it's absolutely, objectively much worse today.

    It's a dangerous game they're playing. Even if they think they can just work & pray and ignore the "politics". It's not just politics. This kind of "politics" has a way of spilling over into real life. We're not talking about the fake 2-party political system in America, where the Rs and Ds are essentially the same when the rubber meets the road.

    In conclusion, the Resistance is doing something truly necessary. It's not about this or that personality. It's about acknowledging the reality of the situation of the SSPX, and prudently preparing for the future. We need priests, we need the Mass, we need the Sacraments.

    It's like the Catholic version of the Fourteen Words:

    We must secure the existence of Catholic Tradition and a future for Traditional Catholics.

    By the way, I see no problem with the actual Fourteen Words either. Seems pretty basic to want your people to continue to EXIST.

    We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

    Just don't combine the Catholic 14 Words with the great event in Tradition, the consecration of the four bishops in 1988, and abbreviate it "1488". 
    People might misunderstand you, and let's face it, it would be your fault!
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    Re: Are SSPX Religious Houses More "Resistant" ?
    « Reply #3 on: June 08, 2024, 10:46:58 PM »
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    • outdated...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSPX-affiliated_religious_orders
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    The Society of Saint Pius X has close links with several religious institutes, chiefly in France.
    Various orders
    Latin orders
    Male orders
    The following are associated male orders:[4]
    Female orders
    The following are associated female orders:[4]
    Eastern orders
    The following are associated religious orders that celebrate according to Eastern Catholic liturgies:[23]
    Matthew is probably correct...You are resistance or you are not. But once in a while, some are on the right path, seeking truth.  I remember at the very onset of the Resistance, a benedictine? convent in Germany saw and reacted to what +Fell ay was doing. Their short comment was: ' Sspx is no longer fighting for Tradition' 

    Pray. 
    I don't know what Silver City is doing but obviously they get along with neoSspx. How many monks now, I don't know. 50?  We had a blast at that monastery, blasting DYNAMITE...7AM for 3 weeks the contractor would shout: Blow the hole!!! I hope the monks are holy.

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    Re: Are SSPX Religious Houses More "Resistant" ?
    « Reply #4 on: June 09, 2024, 06:03:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Steve on June 08, 2024, 08:11:59 AM
    What about the benedictines in Silver City?
    They house Fr. Albert, banished from the Avrillé Dominicans, so they are definitely not sympathetic to "The Resistance".
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    Re: Are SSPX Religious Houses More "Resistant" ?
    « Reply #5 on: June 12, 2024, 06:31:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on June 08, 2024, 10:03:47 PM
    They either support the Resistance, or they don't.

    They might not be chomping at the bit to involve themselves more & more with the Conciliar Church, but let's face it: what's going to happen is going to happen. If they aren't supporting and working with the Resistance and its bishops, what happens when the SSPX directs them to a Conciliar bishop for their holy oils? For their ordinations? What happens if the local Conciliar bishop decides this monastery or that convent is problematic for whatever reason? Perhaps it's too "divisive" or "controversial".

    Long story short, it's dangerous and foolish to get too close and cozy with the Conciliar Church at this juncture. If +ABL was negative on the Conciliar Church in 1991, what would he think of it today? Let's face it -- it's absolutely, objectively much worse today.

    It's a dangerous game they're playing. Even if they think they can just work & pray and ignore the "politics". It's not just politics. This kind of "politics" has a way of spilling over into real life. We're not talking about the fake 2-party political system in America, where the Rs and Ds are essentially the same when the rubber meets the road.

    In conclusion, the Resistance is doing something truly necessary. It's not about this or that personality. It's about acknowledging the reality of the situation of the SSPX, and prudently preparing for the future. We need priests, we need the Mass, we need the Sacraments.

    It's like the Catholic version of the Fourteen Words:

    We must secure the existence of Catholic Tradition and a future for Traditional Catholics.

    By the way, I see no problem with the actual Fourteen Words either. Seems pretty basic to want your people to continue to EXIST.

    We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

    Just don't combine the Catholic 14 Words with the great event in Tradition, the consecration of the four bishops in 1988, and abbreviate it "1488".
    People might misunderstand you, and let's face it, it would be your fault!


    Thank you Matthew - 
      This is why I  am here on CathInfo. This is why I posted the question.

    Excellent points, including the bit about N.O. holy oils... and likely holding confirmations hostage too like they did to Fr. - now +Bp. - Thomas Aquinas... until +Bp W to the rescue!

    If only, if ONLY there were more Resistance priests!

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