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Online Gray2023

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Re: Just ignore Trump's words
« Reply #120 on: October 20, 2024, 09:51:14 PM »
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  • Usually there are miracles associated with people having heroic Faith.  What were the miracles of the Vedeans?  Who were the canonized Saints?  I am not very familiar with their story.
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

    Offline Marie Teresa

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #121 on: October 20, 2024, 10:02:29 PM »
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  •  I am not very familiar with their story.

    Here are several books you might want to read.  

    This one is the personal memoirs of a woman who lived through that time.  It is excellent!

    A FAMILY OF BRIGANDS IN 1793


    This one is a general history.  Also well worth the read: 

    FOR ALTAR AND THRONE

    To learn more quickly, here's a talk by Michael Davies. 



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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #122 on: October 20, 2024, 10:07:16 PM »
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  • To imply that invoking the Sacred Heart—a potent symbol of divine love and strength—leads to another doomed rebellion is to blaspheme the very nature of our faith. The Vendeans stood resolutely for their God-given rights and the true teachings of the Church, courageously defying overwhelming odds. Your perspective seems to reflect a troubling lukewarmness, a hesitancy to confront the moral crises that besiege us today. We cannot afford to be complacent; the spirit of Archbishop Lefebvre calls us to unwavering conviction and action. Are you truly Catholic, or have you allowed fear and passivity to overshadow the call to defend our faith?

    They didn't defy overwhelming odds... they lost and were slaughtered, France has never recovered from it and they never achieved their objective. It also spurred on the reign of terror and atrocities committed by the revolutionaries. It was the Martyrs of Compiegne that ended the reign of terror and not the Vendeans. Just like the early Christian Martyrs could not take matters into their own hands and would have to wait for Constantine the Great and the Chi-Rho, which France did receive in the form of the Sacred Heart but King Louis XIV spurned it.

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    The third message asks the King: "to be painted on his standards and engraved on his weapons to make him victorious over all his enemies, by bringing down at his feet the proud and superb heads, in order to make him triumphant to all the enemies of the Holy Church".

    This was not said to the Vendeans, this was said to King Louis XIV, the Vendeans with much worse odds (doomed from the start once the situation had deteriorated so badly) got slaughtered and simply spurred on the reign of terror.


    The Martyrs of Compiegne ended the reign of terror, not the Vendeans.

    "For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."

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    Re: Just ignore Trump's words
    « Reply #123 on: October 21, 2024, 07:05:54 PM »
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  • Nowhere does "it" say that you MUST sacrifice convictions, principles in order to vote in this "election". I don't think for one second I'm sacrificing my convictions by voting against the communist kamal. One of the politicians will be in the Whitehouse next year. One is worse than the other. The communists are very happy that many Catholics of good will believe that doing nothing (not voting) is doing something.