Author Topic: Why did God create black people? (Read 25184 times)

Daegus · « **Reply #75 on:** July 05, 2011, 11:34:36 AM »

The difficulty absorbing melanin can be easily overcome by spending at least 15-30 minutes in the sun every so often and eating properly. These are things that all people should be doing anyway, so I don't see how this would even be a problem to begin with. The sun isn't all bad. After all, if it was so bad we would not have animals like cats and dogs sitting out in the sun and sun bathing, now would be? (My cat loves the sun..)

As long as you also avoid the cancer inducing sunscreens, you should be fine as well.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #76 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:41:20 PM »

Catherine Emmerich's revalations were approved by the church. Of course, they are private revalation, as are the writings of Maria of Agreda.
She says they are descendents of Cain.
The Church has converted all of the non believing races to the faith thru her past missionary efforts.
The missionaries have risked their lives and some gave their lives to go to Africa to convert the black race there from their animism and witchcraft.
Our Lord told the Apostles to go to all nations and baptize them. Thos who believe are baptized and those who dont are condemned.

Catherine Emmerich said that after Cain slew Abel, a black mark appeared on his forhead. He then exited from the family with some of them. Catherine Emmerich said the migrated to the lower regions . She said the mark spread until all their bodies were black.
Ill try and scan some pages from the book for you all to read.

Exilenomore · « **Reply #77 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:48:10 PM »

Caïn was a son of Adam, Emerentiana. He was not created apart from Adam, but descended directly from him. And the private revelation you are referring to does not deny that.

Daegus · « **Reply #78 on:** July 05, 2011, 03:24:23 PM »

Here's what the "Blessed" Anne Catherine Emmerich has to say about blacks:

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"I saw the curse pronounced by Noah upon Ham moving toward the latter like a black cloud and obscuring him. His skin lost its whiteness, he grew darker. His sin was the sin of sacrilege, the sin of one who would forcibly enter the Ark of the Covenant. I saw a most corrupt race descend from Ham and sink deeper and deeper in darkness. I see that the black, idolatrous, stupid nations are the descendants of Ham. Their color is due, not to the rays of the sun, but to the dark source whence those degraded races sprang"

No one sees anything fishy about this? The curse wasn't even placed on Ham to begin with, so this "vision" of hers is based on a false premise, which makes me doubt the authenticity of this vision. On top of that, there's that strange "inner core" of God nonsense that she touted, which seems rather strange and insignificant to me.

I wasn't aware that "Blessed" Anne was a scientist, and figured out that the dark skin of blacks has nothing to do with the sun, but has to do with the depravity of our "degraded race". Perhaps I'm only imagining things when I go to a tropical island for a vacation and notice my skin becomes darker over time. :scratchchin:

Daegus · « **Reply #79 on:** July 05, 2011, 03:48:59 PM »

Here are the opinions of a trad Catholic on CAF about ms. Emmerich. (In order, excluding the rantings and ravings of CAF anti-trads):

http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=7144831&postcount=1

http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=7144953&postcount=3

http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=7145162&postcount=5

http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=7145162&postcount=8

http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=7145387&postcount=10

roscoe · « **Reply #80 on:** July 05, 2011, 03:49:37 PM »

I don't believe that black peoples skin is because of exposure to the Sun.

TKGS · « **Reply #81 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:01:08 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

I don't believe that black peoples skin is because of exposure to the Sun.

Of course isn't. Such rational is akin to claiming that giraffes have long necks because the kept trying to stretch up to the leaves on trees to eat over a millenium. Skin pigmintation is a genetic change else people would change races according to how much sun they are exposed to.

Daegus · « **Reply #82 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:03:46 PM »

http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=7145318&postcount=8

^ Fixed link 8.

TheHarlequinKing · « **Reply #83 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:07:13 PM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

Catherine Emmerich's revalations were approved by the church.

This is not correct. Emmerich was beatified by JPII (who, as most of us know, was less than scrupulous with the declaring of saints) due to her personal holiness, not the truth or untruth of her writings. The Holy See has never declared her visions to be worthy of belief. The posts linked by Daegus highlight quite a few other problems with her writings besides the black people stuff.

In Emmerich's defense, though, most racism is really just ignorance of foreign people, not a hatred rooted with philosophical groundings. Emmerich, as a nun in Westphalia in the late 1700's/early 1800's, had probably not seen many black people in her life. Those she did see were most likely uneducated slaves.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #84 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:08:40 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

I don't believe that black peoples skin is because of exposure to the Sun.

No one ever said it was. Go back to your pot, you clearly weren't paying attention.

roscoe · « **Reply #85 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:08:59 PM »

There is no such thing as 'racism'.

Daegus · « **Reply #86 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:11:02 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

There is no such thing as 'racism'.

Still trolling the thread, are we? So far you've contributed nothing to the thread but idiocy. Where are your contributions besides baiting me into a pointless discussion that will get the thread locked? They are nowhere to be found.

You deserve to be banned. Your reputation is dismal and you have nothing useful to say. Go away.

roscoe · « **Reply #87 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:11:04 PM »

Quote from: Daegus

Perhaps I'm only imagining things when I go to a tropical island for a vacation and notice my skin becomes darker over time.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #88 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:11:39 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

There is no such thing as 'racism'.

So people who hate say, the Latino race aren't racist? How is that so?

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #89 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:13:14 PM »

Quote from: Daegus

Quote from: roscoe
There is no such thing as 'racism'.

Still trolling the thread, are we? So far you've contributed nothing to the thread but idiocy.

You deserve to be banned. Your reputation is dismal and you have nothing useful to say. Go away.

I think Matthew keeps him because he would feel bad for banning a 60 year-old man who lives by himself. In a way, I too feel sorry for roscoe. But it doesn't mean he should continue to post on a forum he constantly puts down.