Author Topic: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS (Read 7351 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #15 on:** September 28, 2021, 07:27:51 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on September 28, 2021, 07:14:40 AM

The exemption letter from Fr. Robinson now making the rounds in the SSPX also acknowledges that the “vaccine” can be licitly received in certain circuмstances, making it, from the employers perspective, worthless (and conceding a disputed point, difficult for many faithful to use). It is therefore pretty much worthless for use with any employer sharing Gov. Hochul’s position (ie., “Even the Pope says it’s OK.”).

Indeed, I've already formulated what my request for a religious exemption would look like, and it would not mention being Catholic but would say that it's a "deeply held religious conviction" ... since they would throw Bergoglio at you. I you said, well, I'm a Traditional Catholic, then they could throw the SSPX right back in your face. Both the Conciliar Church and the SSPX have thrown us under the bus. There's a show on EWTN radio where they've been absolutely excoriating Bergoglio and the Conciliar hierarchy for this, calling the abortion-tainted vaccine a Satanic sacrament. They too realize that they're being thrown under the bus.

B from A · « **Reply #16 on:** September 28, 2021, 07:29:22 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on September 28, 2021, 07:27:51 AM

Indeed, I've already formulated what my request for a religious exemption would look like, and it would not mention being Catholic but would say that it's a "deeply held religious conviction" ...

I've seen a few podcasts where Catholics are saying to do that. They say you don't need to specify, but just, as you said, say that it's a "deeply held religious conviction."

DigitalLogos · « **Reply #17 on:** September 28, 2021, 07:31:13 AM »

Alternatively, you could forego the SSPX altogether when it comes to exemptions and join +Schneider's confraternity, which provides an exemption letter and certificate signed by +Schneider attesting to membership. That way, you avoid naysayers appealing to the Pope or weak exemptions.

https://www.livefatima.io/become-a-member/

Mr G · « **Reply #18 on:** September 28, 2021, 07:50:43 AM »

Quote from: Jr1991 on September 27, 2021, 03:18:18 PM

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/trads-slam-sspx-for-sanitizing-fetal-cell-jab

Pushback From the Faithful
SSPX supporters in Italy told Church Militant the recent statement was evidence of a deep split between laity and many priests with the leadership of the society who were now revealing themselves as "totally compromised" and "eager to curry favor with Rome."

"Many SSPX priests are resisting the jabs and even warning their congregations to ignore the official statements from the leadership," a source close to the SSPX said.
"The SSPX Resistance in Ireland under Bp. Williamson has increased numbers as frustration grows with SSPX leadership over what some see as a lack of opposition to vaccines," an Irish source told Church Militant.

Meanwhile, traditionalists on Twitter slammed the SSPX statement as "vacillating," "pathetic," and "one that particularly lacks understanding as to the evil we face by continuing to grow an evil medical tyranny through pusillanimous compliance."

Lay traditionalist Catholics are rallying around Bp. Athanasius Schneider's alert that the vaccine "could be already in part a prefiguration" of the mark of the Beast prophesied in the biblical book of Revelation.

"But now even the body, your own body, is becoming the property of the State," Schneider said, noting that "those who are not vaccinated are in fact becoming a kind of person who has almost no equal rights compared with the others."

"The fetal industry is immoral and very grave because we are de facto collaborating with it, and especially committing a great sin of omission in failing to protest clearly and strongly, at least against the use of cell lines in the fetal industry and in vaccination," Schneider stressed.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #19 on:** September 28, 2021, 10:32:52 AM »

The SSPX has been cursed since they started granting annulments. Until they don sackcloth and ashes and formally, publicly, acknowledge the sin and abrogate all of their annulments, they will remain on their downhill trajectory to the abyss of the Novus Ordo religion, to join the other annulment purveyors on the path to hell.

St. John Chrysostom, Patriarch of Constantinople, Doctor of the Church:

I do not speak rashly, but as I feel and think., I do not think that many priests are saved but that those that perish are far more numerous. The reason is that the office requires a great soul. For there are many things to make a priest swerve from rectitude, and he requires great vigilance on every side. Do you not perceive how many qualities a bishop must have that he may be apt to teach; patient towards the wicked, firm and faithful in teaching the Word? How many difficulties herein.

Moreover the loss of others is imputed to him. I need say no more. If but one dies without baptism, does it not entirely endanger his salvation? For the loss of one soul is so great an evil as no man can understand. If the salvation of one soul is of such importance that, for its sake, the Son of God became man and suffered so much, think of the penalty the loss of one soul will entail. (Third Homily, Acts of the Apostles)

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #20 on:** September 28, 2021, 10:36:01 AM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on September 28, 2021, 10:32:52 AM

The SSPX has been cursed since they started granting annulments. Until they don sackcloth and ashes and formally publicly acknowledge the sin and abrogate all of their annulments, they will remain on their downhill trajectory to the abyss of the Novus Ordo religion, to join the other annulment purveyors on the path to hell.

All of the Menzingen's blunders (like this jab stance) come from the blindness put upon them by God, as a punishment for granting annulments.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #21 on:** September 28, 2021, 11:06:51 AM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on September 28, 2021, 10:36:01 AM

All of the Menzingen's blunders (like this jab stance) come from the blindness put upon them by God, as a punishment for granting annulments.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the SSPX doesn’t “grant annulments,” but simply renders their best judgment regarding the status of marriages for their faithful (just like we do here oftentimes on CI). It has no standing; it’s just advice from priests.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #22 on:** September 28, 2021, 11:22:14 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on September 28, 2021, 11:06:51 AM

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the SSPX doesn’t “grant annulments,” but simply renders their best judgment regarding the status of marriages for their faithful (just like we do here oftentimes on CI). It has no standing; it’s just advice from priests.

Right. One of the big issues that The Nine had with SSPX was regarding their acceptance of NO annulments. Contrary popular belief, quite a few of The Nine weren't actually sedevacantists at the time. In any case, if you're a sedevacantist, then no annulments are legitimate based on the NO findings. If you're R&R, then some may be and may not be ... and this is where they render an opinion. I believe the sedevacantists accept things which are clear-cut cases, i.e. such as when a baptized Catholic got married outside the Church, or when someone attempted remarriage when one spouse was already previously married ... things that are obvious just from fact.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #23 on:** September 28, 2021, 11:24:32 AM »

Quote from: Mr G on September 28, 2021, 07:50:43 AM

Pushback From the Faithful
SSPX supporters in Italy told Church Militant the recent statement was evidence of a deep split between laity and many priests with the leadership of the society who were now revealing themselves as "totally compromised" and "eager to curry favor with Rome."

"Many SSPX priests are resisting the jabs and even warning their congregations to ignore the official statements from the leadership," a source close to the SSPX said.
"The SSPX Resistance in Ireland under Bp. Williamson has increased numbers as frustration grows with SSPX leadership over what some see as a lack of opposition to vaccines," an Irish source told Church Militant.

I couldn't quite gather from the article whether CM agrees with the illicitness of taking the jab or whether they were just using it to go after the SSPX. Does CM agree with the assertion that the SSPX are too "eager to curry favor with Rome"? I should think not ... but that won't stop them from using it against the SSPX.

Jr1991 · « **Reply #24 on:** September 28, 2021, 01:20:01 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on September 28, 2021, 07:27:51 AM

Indeed, I've already formulated what my request for a religious exemption would look like, and it would not mention being Catholic but would say that it's a "deeply held religious conviction" ... since they would throw Bergoglio at you. I you said, well, I'm a Traditional Catholic, then they could throw the SSPX right back in your face. Both the Conciliar Church and the SSPX have thrown us under the bus. There's a show on EWTN radio where they've been absolutely excoriating Bergoglio and the Conciliar hierarchy for this, calling the abortion-tainted vaccine a Satanic sacrament. They too realize that they're being thrown under the bus.

That's a great point. I think I will draft my exemption letter the same way. Thank you!

Matto · « **Reply #25 on:** September 28, 2021, 01:25:29 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on September 28, 2021, 11:24:32 AM

I couldn't quite gather from the article whether CM agrees with the illicitness of taking the jab or whether they were just using it to go after the SSPX.

Trad Patrick on twitter claimed that CM forces its employees to take the jab, so they are just going after the SSPX if he is correct.

Geremia · « **Reply #26 on:** September 28, 2021, 01:32:59 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on September 28, 2021, 11:22:14 AM

One of the big issues that The Nine had with SSPX was regarding their acceptance of NO annulments.

"The Nine" thought they alone were the true Church?

Quote from: Council of Trent sess. 24 https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/creeds2.v.i.i.xi.html#v.i.i.xi-p5.23

Canon XII.—If any one saith, that matrimonial causes do not belong to ecclesiastical judges: let him be anathema.

DigitalLogos · « **Reply #27 on:** September 28, 2021, 03:59:34 PM »

Quote from: Matto on September 28, 2021, 01:25:29 PM

Trad Patrick on twitter claimed that CM forces its employees to take the jab, so they are just going after the SSPX if he is correct.

No kidding? Seems about in line with their apparent character as a "news" entity. Creating scandal just for scandal's sake... how low.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #28 on:** September 28, 2021, 05:41:48 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on September 28, 2021, 11:06:51 AM

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the SSPX doesn’t “grant annulments,” but simply renders their best judgment regarding the status of marriages for their faithful (just like we do here oftentimes on CI). It has no standing; it’s just advice from priests.

That is what they said at the beginning years ago, but then it was revealed that they were actually granting annulments. Maybe now that they are only performing marriages with a Novus Ordo priest present, or the approval of the local ordinary, they may have stopped granting annulment, but I doubt it.

Incredulous · « **Reply #29 on:** September 28, 2021, 07:34:33 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on September 28, 2021, 06:47:37 AM

Now, Fr. Robinson's letter said religious exemptions are personal and so the priests wouldn't sign them ... because they think the jab is OK. But I have since learned that some applications for religious exemption do require a signature from some religious leader.

Is this Father Kevin or Fr. Paul (Carl Sagan) Robinson ?

Father Kevin was way ahead of the curve in his hard core stance against the sorcery implications (MRC-5) of the vax.

The last I heard, Fr. Paul had bought Fauci’s science, hook, line and sinker.

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