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My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
« on: February 07, 2021, 03:23:22 PM »
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  • My favorite argument is the "argument of evidence/history" which can be wielded once a crisis goes on long enough.

    For example, the evils of the Novus Ordo no longer require an erudite "Ottaviani Intervention" dissecting the Novus Ordo Missae and laying bare its deficiencies and evils. Today we just have to point to the results, and Judge The Tree By Its Fruits (something Our Lord told us to do!)

    Another example: the efficacy of masks, social distancing, etc. in containing a "pandemic" like CÖVÌD-19. In Feb 2020 we could have had an argument. But today? All I have to point to is the evidence -- the larger-than-ever case numbers, hospitalizations, even deaths -- CÖVÌD 19 is laughing at all our countermeasures. Doesn't that PROVE that the measures don't work?

    If I sell you a weight-loss tonic and you gain 10 or 20 pounds over the first year, at what point do you decide "that weight loss tonic was a scam -- at least it does nothing and quite possibly does harm!"


    My point is this: contra factum non est argumentum (There is no argument against a fact).
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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #1 on: February 07, 2021, 04:46:19 PM »
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  • Are they saying the hospitalizations and deaths are going up? When you said that, I was surprised to realize it's been weeks, maybe months, since I even looked at the official narrative on this virus. Once I stopped believing any of the narrative, I just decided to ignore it and move on with my life.
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    So they're really saying the situation(?) is getting worse?


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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #2 on: February 07, 2021, 04:53:41 PM »
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  • Actually, the "election" of Biden has caused the infection rates to drop.

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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #3 on: February 07, 2021, 10:11:11 PM »
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  • It's hard to argue with sheep.

    Just had a conversation with someone who is saying oh my it's dangerous to go to mass.

    I use the government stats, look the CDC says 1 in 4 Americans have had this 'disease' in this year.

    Even by the CDC admission only 15% are 'asymptomatic' 70-80% of this number are  coughing or have some symptoms just not enough to feel real bad.

    This is a whopping 0.6% fatal.

    And this fatality rate is why you are in fear?
    Hell the dead number only @2x the number who normally die from annual medical screwups

    How is this dangerous?

    People have lost their minds
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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #4 on: February 07, 2021, 11:10:33 PM »
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  • I use the government stats, look the CDC says 1 in 4 Americans have had this 'disease' in this year.
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    Not to derail, but eventually the numbers of cases will equal the population, since they go up every day. Anyone know when we will reach that level at our current rate of progress? Anyone know what will happen when we get there? Anyone seen this question raised or answered in any sort of public media?


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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #5 on: February 08, 2021, 06:14:12 AM »
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  • Well the numbers are @ 3.2 x the numbers of reported cases.

    Now add 41 million vaccine administered gives you 37% either vaccinated or infected. So by their own numbers between vaccinations or catching it, at the latest by Christmas we will have immunity to it, which we would have had probably by now if we never locked down in the first place. For a disease with a fatality rate double the flu for the over 65 age bracket 🙄
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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #6 on: February 08, 2021, 06:19:48 AM »
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  • Notice that the one statistic never mentioned?  We never hear how many people have recovered from the disease.

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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #7 on: February 08, 2021, 06:28:27 AM »
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  • Well the numbers are @ 3.2 x the numbers of reported cases.

    Now add 41 million ναccιnє administered gives you 37% either ναccιnαted or infected. So by their own numbers between vaccinations or catching it, at the latest by Christmas we will have immunity to it, which we would have had probably by now if we never locked down in the first place. For a disease with a fatality rate double the flu for the over 65 age bracket 🙄
    But the new scam is the promotion of the idea that “immunity only lasts for 2 months”! 


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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #8 on: February 08, 2021, 06:47:23 AM »
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  • Right because the science of immunology and microbiology do not exist.

    Morons listening to epidemiologiste who somehow 'must study this virus because we don't know what it will do'

    Here's an idea moron

    It's a virus, the nature of a virus is to mutate, the very reason you can't develop a vaccine for the flu. But oh no tell the public 'the virus has mutated,' make this the public face of fear, spooky.

    It's the immune system, guess what that does? Oh yes mast, dendrites take portions of a defeated cell to memory cells and guess what happens? The memory cell remembers.
    But what do they talk about? Maybe we don't stay immune. Where does this come from? It comes from artificial immune production. What is this, vaccinations which only provides a portion of the disease ( provided that's the type used ) so the immunity can 'wear off, that is why they whine about flu 'vaccines' (they are not vaccines) all they do is provide short term innate immunity which doesn't go deep enough to stimulate T and B cells. So this to is a truth used as a lie.
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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #9 on: February 08, 2021, 07:36:32 AM »
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  • Notice that the one statistic never mentioned?  We never hear how many people have recovered from the disease.
    😂 I’ve been saying this since the beginning. Nope, not going to give those numbers, it would be too telling.

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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #10 on: February 08, 2021, 07:39:37 AM »
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  • It's hard to argue with sheep.

    Just had a conversation with someone who is saying oh my it's dangerous to go to mass.

    I use the government stats, look the CDC says 1 in 4 Americans have had this 'disease' in this year.

    Even by the CDC admission only 15% are 'asymptomatic' 70-80% of this number are  coughing or have some symptoms just not enough to feel real bad.

    This is a whopping 0.6% fatal.

    And this fatality rate is why you are in fear?
    Hell the dead number only @2x the number who normally die from annual medical screwups

    How is this dangerous?

    People have lost their minds
    As my late uncle used to say: “insanity reigns supreme”.


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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #11 on: February 08, 2021, 07:55:45 AM »
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  • To which the powers that be simply respond:

    "Don't bother me with facts."

    They don't care.  They have agendas.  Indeed, it's absolutely proven scientifically that masks do nothing to slow the transmission of viruses ... and even Fauci admitted this early on ... but they don't care because they have an agenda.

    In other works, they do not make any arguments against the facts ... they simply ignore them.

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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #12 on: February 08, 2021, 08:01:10 AM »
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  • To which the powers that be simply respond:

    "Don't bother me with facts."

    They don't care.  They have agendas.  Indeed, it's absolutely proven scientifically that masks do nothing to slow the transmission of viruses ... and even Fauci admitted this early on ... but they don't care because they have an agenda.
    Yep, they even claim that Fauci lied, for altruistic reasons, when he said at the beginning of this farce that masks don’t help. 

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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #13 on: February 08, 2021, 08:16:22 AM »
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  • Yep, they even claim that Fauci lied, for altruistic reasons, when he said at the beginning of this farce that masks don’t help.

    Yes, they lie, cheat, and steal.  Evil has a tactical advantage over good, because they have no issues with any immoral tactics ... whereas we are constrained by our morals.

    But, we know that God wins in the end.

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    Re: My favorite argument - contra factum non est argumentum
    « Reply #14 on: February 08, 2021, 08:55:21 AM »
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  • Very few people are talking about this:

    Everyone talks about DEATH on the nightly news -- and yes, that includes Fox. It's the ENTIRE Mainstream Media that's purveying fear porn 24/7 about this so-called "pandemic".

    But we've never had day-by-day death count tracking for ANYTHING ELSE. Ever. I'm in my mid-40's. I can't remember a single war, pandemic, disaster, etc. that had a constant case-count or death-count ticker displayed every day, for people to worry about and obsess over.

    If they showed the daily deaths for car accidents, people would be selling their cars right now! If they showed the daily death count for heart disease or strokes, people would all be on diets and trying to get in shape! Get the pattern?

    It's about where the focus is. We have no context or frame of reference for the number of deaths they're talking about. Making daily deaths about anything public is completely novel -- never been done before. Even I have no idea what "normal" is for daily deaths for the flu, etc. in a given city of 100,000 people.
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