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« Reply #60 on: February 16, 2024, 02:00:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: moneil on February 15, 2024, 11:43:48 AM
    I did understand your position in your Reply #38, it was very well stated.  There were other comments that implied that the practice of ALSO offering blessed ashes on the First Sunday of Lent was some kind of liturgical abuse, or a post VII "innovation", which is simple NOT true, and I provided an authentic citation from a pre VII source.

    What seems interesting is that offering blessed ashes on the First Sunday of Lent was a common pre VII practice where I grew up (I can't speak for other parts of the world) but I have NEVER seen it done since the liturgical changes.
    It is abuse. 8 priests in Florida and a part time priest serving Philadelphia and Southern New Jersey, Delaware area.  

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    « Reply #61 on: February 16, 2024, 02:01:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 16, 2024, 02:00:45 PM
    It is abuse. 8 priests in Florida and a part time priest serving Philadelphia and Southern New Jersey, Delaware area. 
    That’s me. 
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    « Reply #62 on: February 16, 2024, 02:10:30 PM »
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    • According to Operation Lepanto the SSPX chapel in Davie has raised 847K of a desired 2 Million. 
    https://givebutter.com/davie
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    « Reply #63 on: February 16, 2024, 02:42:36 PM »
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    • 670K of the $847,000 came from selling the Shrine of St. Philomena to Pentecotals in Miami. 
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    « Reply #64 on: February 16, 2024, 02:47:57 PM »
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    • They sold a shrine?
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    « Reply #65 on: February 16, 2024, 02:57:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 16, 2024, 02:47:57 PM
    They sold a shrine?

    Yes, in the middle of COVID 
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    « Reply #66 on: February 16, 2024, 03:03:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 16, 2024, 02:00:45 PM
    It is abuse. 8 priests in Florida and a part time priest serving Philadelphia and Southern New Jersey, Delaware area. 

    Unless there is money to be made in Philly, you can forget about it. 
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    « Reply #67 on: February 16, 2024, 03:11:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: OABrownson1876 on February 16, 2024, 02:10:30 PM
    According to Operation Lepanto the SSPX chapel in Davie has raised 847K of a desired 2 Million.
    https://givebutter.com/davie

    Well, the more Novus Ordized you get, the more you broaden your revenue base.

    I bet that a lot of the "softening" in the SSPX against the Novus Ordo is based on not wanting to reduce their revenue base ... since they have to pay for those idiotic huge expenditures, the $50 million seminary and $25 million church at St. Mary's.

    In other words, the SSPX is behaving more and more like grifters.  That's common in the Novus Ordo, where the priests aren't permitted to make the assembled masses upset or uncomfortable lest the collections dry up.

    Meanwhile, the True Remnant remain in the catacombs, whereas the SSPX are emerging with their white flags.
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    « Reply #68 on: February 16, 2024, 03:20:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: OABrownson1876 on February 16, 2024, 02:10:30 PM
    According to Operation Lepanto the SSPX chapel in Davie has raised 847K of a desired 2 Million.
    https://givebutter.com/davie
    Unless something has changed, the proper and necessary permits for building a church on their property has not and may never be issued.  The neighbors don't want additional traffic.  Maybe the prior needs more money for permits.
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    « Reply #69 on: February 16, 2024, 03:28:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 16, 2024, 03:20:00 PM
    Unless something has changed, the proper and necessary permits for building a church on their property has not and may never be issued.  The neighbors don't want additional traffic.  Maybe the prior needs more money for permits.

    Yes, the land they purchased for $1,200,000, which came from the first phase of the fundraising in which the SSPX collected a million dollars from faithful, is not zoned for Church use. Only  Agriculture, the zoning board rejected the SSPX request for a variance.

    The SSPX in Sanford has now told the mass-goers in Davie that they are trying to execute a "land transfer." --With the Town of Davie. This is something I do not believe, to be honest with you. Maybe someone here has more information about that. I can't believe people continue to be so gullible with their money.
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    « Reply #70 on: February 16, 2024, 03:32:31 PM »
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    • I thought the Prior said that he wants the faithful to "build him a bigger church" in Sanford--that was why they "had to" use the Novus Ordo meeting house instead of the SSPX Chapel?
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    « Reply #71 on: February 16, 2024, 03:35:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 16, 2024, 03:32:31 PM
    I thought the Prior said that he wants the faithful to "build him a bigger church" in Sanford--that was why they "had to" use the Novus Ordo meeting house instead of the SSPX Chapel?

    Yes, he actually threatened the faithful in Sanford, saying if they did not build him a bigger Church, he would move to Davie. But he does not have the land or the funds in Davie. 
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    « Reply #72 on: February 16, 2024, 03:39:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 16, 2024, 03:28:04 PM
    Yes, the land they purchased for $1,200,000, which came from the first phase of the fundraising in which the SSPX collected a million dollars from faithful, is not zoned for Church use. Only  Agriculture, the zoning board rejected the SSPX request for a variance.

    The SSPX in Sanford has now told the mass-goers in Davie that they are trying to execute a "land transfer." --With the Town of Davie. This is something I do not believe, to be honest with you. Maybe someone here has more information about that. I can't believe people continue to be so gullible with their money.
    If the people donating money do not know that the SSPX cannot build on that property, how is that not fraud?  At the least it is lying by omission.
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    « Reply #73 on: February 16, 2024, 03:43:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 16, 2024, 03:39:28 PM
    If the people donating money do not know that the SSPX cannot build on that property, how is that not fraud?  At the least it is lying by omission.

    I think the parishioners have bought into the land transfer story. The others who don't know well they are being duped. 
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    « Reply #74 on: February 16, 2024, 03:48:56 PM »
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    • Sorry, I meant to say land swap. 
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