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Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
« on: February 12, 2024, 11:17:57 AM »
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  • You may remember this is the church that had confirmations at a Novus Ordo church a few months ago. Telling too that Fr Z goes down there as he’s known for his taste in food and drink, as is that priory. 

    This is from a google review;

    My wife Stephanie and I started regularly attending St. Thomas More when we started doing our marriage prep with Fr. Vernoy in early 2023. We were married here in September 2023.

    I love St. Thomas More for several reasons. First, they offer the Latin Mass with great beauty and reverence and the preaching is always orthodox and solid.

    They live the liturgical year with gusto: candlelit Marian processions, Eucharistic processions through the neighborhood, rosary marches through downtown Sanford for Our Lady of Victory, May crownings, a festival for their patron saint's feast day, an international festival for Christ the King, First Friday and First Saturday devotions, etc.

    Second, they have lots of resources that aren't very common with Latin Mass venues: 8 priests, their own church, a K-12 school, a vibrant community, a bookstore, Gregorian chant, weekly catechism for children and adults in English and Spanish, sung Sunday Vespers, lots of volunteering opportunities, multiple daily Masses, solemn high masses on random weekdays, visiting nuns, Ignatian silent retreats, a yearly 102-mile traditional pilgrimage from St. Thomas More in Sanford to Our Lady of La Leche in St. Augustine by foot and canoe where they camp each night, etc.

    Third, they have a warm relationship with the Orlando diocese, especially with Bishop Noonan and All Souls (the local diocesan parish). I know that when it comes to the SSPX, this is a concern for many Catholics, and I want to reassure people.

    Here are some examples. Bishop Noonan officially approved our wedding mass, as he does all weddings at St. Thomas More. My wife and I wrote him a thank you note and sent him pictures.

    Bishop Noonan allowed St. Thomas More to use All Souls (the local diocesan church) for size capacity reasons when Bishop Mallerais visited to do Confirmations a couple months ago.

    A couple weeks ago, St. Peter's in DeLand hosted the St. Thomas More Academy students for their Christmas concert.

    Last year, St. Thomas More Academy did a field trip to the Orlando Science Center and to St. James Cathedral, where they paid homage to Bishop Noonan and formally acknowledged his authority as their bishop. This was publicized in the school newsletter.

    The St. Thomas More choir director splits his time at the All Souls Latin Mass, where he is training their choir. I think Bishop Noonan also has St. Thomas More help train priests who want to celebrate the Latin Mass.

    Last year, I attended a Pontifical High Mass at Epiphany in Tampa sponsored by Bishop Parkes and celebrated by Bishop Schneider, who gave First Communion. Serving at the mass were several diocesan Latin Mass priests including Fr. Palka (the pastor), a couple of FSSP priests from Sarasota, Fr. Talarico the provincial superior of the Institute of Christ the King for the USA, and Fr. Vernoy the prior for the SSPX in Florida.

    St. Thomas More hosts regular get-togethers for different diocesan Latin Mass priests, including Fr. Palka (pastor of Epiphany in Tampa) and Fr. Z.

    In short, there is a dedicated effort on the part of all involved to recognize lawful authority and have a warm, close relationship.

    I warmly encourage you to visit. It's a great church and we're very blessed. If it's your first time, I'd come to the Sunday high mass at 9:30 am to get the full experience.

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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #1 on: February 12, 2024, 11:25:50 AM »
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  • So that's a Google Review, sound more like a gooey review.  


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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #2 on: February 12, 2024, 11:33:06 AM »
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  • So that's a Google Review, sound more like a gooey review. 

    What do you mean?

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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #3 on: February 12, 2024, 11:35:12 AM »
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  • A few points of note:

    1. This person wasn't anonymous. He used his wife's name and/or his own name (I didn't see the review itself, but it probably has some kind of name or username).

    2. He used PLENTY of details. Go ahead, go skim the review again. He named names, chapels, places, priests. He gave out plenty of details that could easily be verified.

    3. He is extremely positive towards the SSPX chapel in question. He isn't Resistance, nor is he biased against the SSPX.

    4. He came across very candid and genuine, like he was just trying to give a thorough review of the chapel and convince more people to discover what he discovered and "come on in, the water's fine".
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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #4 on: February 12, 2024, 11:38:59 AM »
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  • Last year, St. Thomas More Academy did a field trip to the Orlando Science Center and to St. James Cathedral, where they paid homage to Bishop Noonan and formally acknowledged his authority as their bishop.

    :facepalm:


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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #5 on: February 12, 2024, 12:28:38 PM »
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    4. He came across very candid and genuine, like he was just trying to give a thorough review of the chapel and convince more people to discover what he discovered and "come on in, the water's fine".
    He sounds like an indulter who has no idea about what's been going on in Traditionalism the past 50 years.  Nothing wrong with that, but in regards to Tradition, he sounds like a total newbie.


    Shame on the Sanford clerics (and all the other sspx clerics who are slowing implementing "Operation: Play nice with new-rome".  Judgement Day will NOT be a fun time for them.  God will not be mocked.

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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #6 on: February 12, 2024, 12:28:53 PM »
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  • That was me.

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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #7 on: February 12, 2024, 12:43:53 PM »
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  • Last year, St. Thomas More Academy did a field trip to the Orlando Science Center and to St. James Cathedral, where they paid homage to Bishop Noonan and formally acknowledged his authority as their bishop. This was publicized in the school newsletter.

    Last year, I attended a Pontifical High Mass at Epiphany in Tampa sponsored by Bishop Parkes and celebrated by Bishop Schneider, who gave First Communion. Serving at the mass were several diocesan Latin Mass priests including Fr. Palka (the pastor), a couple of FSSP priests from Sarasota, Fr. Talarico the provincial superior of the Institute of Christ the King for the USA, and Fr. Vernoy the prior for the SSPX in Florida.

    In short, there is a dedicated effort on the part of all involved to recognize lawful authority and have a warm, close relationship.

    Downright painful.  Not to mention completely idiotic on part of the Goodship Lolipop SSPX.


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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #8 on: February 12, 2024, 12:46:46 PM »
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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #9 on: February 12, 2024, 12:54:05 PM »
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  • Last year, I attended a Pontifical High Mass at Epiphany in Tampa sponsored by Bishop Parkes and celebrated by Bishop Schneider, who gave First Communion. Serving at the mass were several diocesan Latin Mass priests including Fr. Palka (the pastor), a couple of FSSP priests from Sarasota, Fr. Talarico the provincial superior of the Institute of Christ the King for the USA, and Fr. Vernoy the prior for the SSPX in Florida.

    Perhaps at the end they all held hands and sang Kumbaya together.  Breaking bread together, drinking fine wines, and smoking fine cigars ... while the diocesan Bishop carries on full steam ahead destroying the faith among those at the neighboring diocesan parishes.  SSPX are fiddling while the Church burns.

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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #10 on: February 12, 2024, 01:08:44 PM »
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  • How very "tradcuмenical". :laugh1: 

    The neo-sspx is basically the fssp now, but with (mostly) valid priests. 

    Seems like they're in a free fall after capitulating with the covid scam. 


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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #11 on: February 12, 2024, 01:26:40 PM »
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  • The clans seem to be uniting.

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    « Reply #12 on: February 12, 2024, 01:56:30 PM »
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  • What do you mean?
    It gushes with sugar-sweetness designed to numb the intellect from grasping the Crisis in the Church. It is like a donut filled with "Unite-the-Clans" MSG goo topped with a glazed coating of "All is good, no worries, we are legit with The Destroyer 'Pope', come on in."

    "Now that you are in, would you like a COVID booster? What is that, you already had two, well here is a third!"

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    The clans seem to be uniting.
    :laugh1:

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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #14 on: February 12, 2024, 02:47:23 PM »
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  • Thanks for posting this. Some of it I have posted in the past couple of years. The part was where The St. Thomas More choir director splits his time at the All Souls Latin Mass, where he is training their choir. I think Bishop Noonan also has St. Thomas More help train priests who want to celebrate the Latin Mass. This also happens in the South Florida chapel where the SSPX music director goes to the indult mass not to train but to sing when no masses are made available by the SSPX(for example, this Ash Wednesday). I have other examples, but I'm at work now.